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  1. #1
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    Old film

    Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    wondering. :-)

    Sydney climate, no special care.

    Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-

    Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA

    (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)

    Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007

    Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010

    Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    I could see.

    What do you guys reckon?

    Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    attached!

    Thanks as usual for any forthcoming replies.

  2. #2
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 23/09/2012 10:04 PM:



    > Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA (This film is
    > for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.) Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA
    > colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007 Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by
    > 03/2010 Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    > what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that I
    > could see. What do you guys reckon? Want to get my old F3HP back into action,
    > which runs still as sweet as a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with
    > the motor drive attached!


    Ah well, crank-up the old F3HP and shoot away! Those will work just fine,
    particularly the B&W ones. Start with the colour stuff, particularly the
    Centuria. That used to be a very fine film, it scanned REALLY well.

    Use one, get it developed and printed and ask the guys that did the development
    if it was OK or needed a bit more light. Old slide film usually needs a bit
    more exposure but I don't think C41 is that sensitive. The B&W stuff will be
    fine for a long time, so keep it for last.

    Fotolab at 303 Pitt St does good work in this sort of conditions, ask John over
    there to do the trial develop/print cycle for you and pay attention to what
    comes out. Their scanner/printer can mask a lot of problems with the film, so
    they are a good bet to use all that stuff.

    And above all: enjoy using that film and gear. Or join the Sydney Analog
    Photographers Meetup:
    http://www.meetup.com/Sydney-Analogu...-Meetup-Group/
    some of us carry 4X5 gear in the streets! :)

  3. #3
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    Re: Old film

    On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:17:54 +1000, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 23/09/2012 10:04 PM:
    >
    >
    >
    >> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA (This film is
    >> for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.) Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA
    >> colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007 Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by
    >> 03/2010 Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that I
    >> could see. What do you guys reckon? Want to get my old F3HP back into action,
    >> which runs still as sweet as a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with
    >> the motor drive attached!

    >
    >Ah well, crank-up the old F3HP and shoot away! Those will work just fine,
    >particularly the B&W ones. Start with the colour stuff, particularly the
    >Centuria. That used to be a very fine film, it scanned REALLY well.
    >
    >Use one, get it developed and printed and ask the guys that did the development
    >if it was OK or needed a bit more light. Old slide film usually needs a bit
    >more exposure but I don't think C41 is that sensitive. The B&W stuff will be
    >fine for a long time, so keep it for last.
    >
    >Fotolab at 303 Pitt St does good work in this sort of conditions, ask John over
    >there to do the trial develop/print cycle for you and pay attention to what
    >comes out. Their scanner/printer can mask a lot of problems with the film, so
    >they are a good bet to use all that stuff.
    >
    >And above all: enjoy using that film and gear. Or join the Sydney Analog
    >Photographers Meetup:
    >http://www.meetup.com/Sydney-Analogu...-Meetup-Group/
    >some of us carry 4X5 gear in the streets! :)


    Thanks for all of that, and the link.

    BTW is this ng dead?

    Last time I used it (many moons ago) it seemed to be quite active?

  4. #4
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2012 6:39 PM:

    > BTW is this ng dead?


    Pretty much so.

    > Last time I used it (many moons ago) it seemed to be quite active?


    Most folks got tired of its constant abuse by a bunch of spam and scam artists
    from Canon and pbase and pissed off to Flickr and a few other moderated forums.
    Not just here: most of Usenet is dead.



  5. #5
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:58:03 +1000, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2012 6:39 PM:
    >
    >> BTW is this ng dead?

    >
    >Pretty much so.
    >
    >> Last time I used it (many moons ago) it seemed to be quite active?

    >
    >Most folks got tired of its constant abuse by a bunch of spam and scam artists
    >from Canon and pbase and pissed off to Flickr and a few other moderated forums.
    > Not just here: most of Usenet is dead.
    >


    You should try aus.politics! ;-)

    Pretty lively there!

  6. #6
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2012 8:06 PM:


    > You should try aus.politics! ;-)
    >
    > Pretty lively there!
    >



    Ah yes, I used to go there when I was at Sloptus, back in the days of the
    spin-off into aus.culture.true-blue.
    Gave up: too much noise and waaaaay too many trolls for my taste.
    Haven't been back since. Maybe I should drop in once in a while...
    Narh!, couldn't be bothered! ;-)

  7. #7
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:22:55 +1000, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2012 8:06 PM:
    >
    >
    >> You should try aus.politics! ;-)
    >>
    >> Pretty lively there!
    >>

    >
    >
    >Ah yes, I used to go there when I was at Sloptus, back in the days of the
    >spin-off into aus.culture.true-blue.
    >Gave up: too much noise and waaaaay too many trolls for my taste.
    >Haven't been back since. Maybe I should drop in once in a while...
    >Narh!, couldn't be bothered! ;-)



    Back to the subject - would a red filter enhance the C41 process B&W
    at all? If not what filter?

  8. #8
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 30/09/2012 8:23 PM:

    >
    > Back to the subject - would a red filter enhance the C41 process B&W
    > at all? If not what filter?


    IME, not as much as with traditional b&w emulsions. C41 responds to colours in
    a different way than a pan or ortho classic b&w film. Not much, but enough to
    notice a difference. But you certainly can use red and yellow for the usual
    outcome. Here are some comments on the subject you might find useful:
    http://photo.net/black-and-white-pho...g-forum/00XASw


  9. #9
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:50:42 +1000, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 30/09/2012 8:23 PM:
    >
    >>
    >> Back to the subject - would a red filter enhance the C41 process B&W
    >> at all? If not what filter?

    >
    >IME, not as much as with traditional b&w emulsions. C41 responds to colours in
    >a different way than a pan or ortho classic b&w film. Not much, but enough to
    >notice a difference. But you certainly can use red and yellow for the usual
    >outcome. Here are some comments on the subject you might find useful:
    >http://photo.net/black-and-white-pho...g-forum/00XASw


    Thanks as usual for the reply.

    That photo on the web page with the orange filter applied is quite
    outstanding, IMO.

  10. #10
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 1/10/2012 5:48 PM:

    > That photo on the web page with the orange filter applied is quite
    > outstanding, IMO.


    Indeed! BW400CN is an amazing film, Kodak never had a clue how to market it...

    Ah well, at least now they are out of the film market we might see some more of
    Ilford and Fuji in filling in the gaps. Not that their offerings are any less,
    they just need to take advantage of having Kodak and their silly double-edge
    game out of the way. XP2 is a perfect substitute for Kodak's and Fuji has some
    outstanding colour negative film that can easily be used for monochrome.

  11. #11
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    > Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    > wondering. :-)
    >
    > Sydney climate, no special care.
    >
    > Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >
    > Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >
    > (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >
    > Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >
    > Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >
    > Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    > what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    > I could see.
    >
    > What do you guys reckon?


    Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.

    > Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    > a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    > attached!


    Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    fool'll buy it.

    I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.

    --
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    - KRudd at his finest.

    "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
    - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

    "This is the recession we had to have!"
    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

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    Re: Old film

    On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >> wondering. :-)
    >>
    >> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>
    >> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>
    >> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>
    >> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>
    >> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>
    >> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>
    >> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >> I could see.
    >>
    >> What do you guys reckon?

    >
    >Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >
    >> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >> attached!

    >
    >Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >fool'll buy it.
    >
    >I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.


    Have to be lot's of noise there?

  13. #13
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    > On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    > <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >>> wondering. :-)
    >>>
    >>> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>>
    >>> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>>
    >>> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>>
    >>> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>>
    >>> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>>
    >>> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>>
    >>> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >>> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >>> I could see.
    >>>
    >>> What do you guys reckon?

    >>
    >> Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >>
    >>> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >>> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >>> attached!

    >>
    >> Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >> fool'll buy it.
    >>
    >> I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >> Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >> less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >> The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >> on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.

    >
    > Have to be lot's of noise there?


    You mean "lots", it's not possessive. Now what do you mean noise?

    --
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    - KRudd at his finest.

    "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
    - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

    "This is the recession we had to have!"
    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

    "I don't care what you ****ers think!"
    - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

    "We'll just change it all when we get in."
    - Garrett the carrott

    "There will be no carbon tax."
    - Juliar Dullard

  14. #14
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    Re: Old film

    On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:19:28 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >>>> wondering. :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>>>
    >>>> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>>>
    >>>> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>>>
    >>>> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>>>
    >>>> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>>>
    >>>> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>>>
    >>>> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >>>> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >>>> I could see.
    >>>>
    >>>> What do you guys reckon?
    >>>
    >>> Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >>>
    >>>> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >>>> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >>>> attached!
    >>>
    >>> Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >>> fool'll buy it.
    >>>
    >>> I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >>> Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >>> less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >>> The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >>> on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.

    >>
    >> Have to be lot's of noise there?

    >
    >You mean "lots", it's not possessive.


    You are correct, Sir John, as usual.

    > Now what do you mean noise?


    Digital noise in the scene if you shoot with lens at 42x zoom?

    Reasonable review here
    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-p510

  15. #15
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    > On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:19:28 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    > <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >>> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>>> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >>>>> wondering. :-)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>>>>
    >>>>> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >>>>> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >>>>> I could see.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> What do you guys reckon?
    >>>>
    >>>> Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >>>>> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >>>>> attached!
    >>>>
    >>>> Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >>>> fool'll buy it.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >>>> Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >>>> less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >>>> The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >>>> on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.
    >>>
    >>> Have to be lot's of noise there?

    >>
    >> You mean "lots", it's not possessive.

    >
    > You are correct, Sir John, as usual.
    >
    >> Now what do you mean noise?

    >
    > Digital noise in the scene if you shoot with lens at 42x zoom?
    >
    > Reasonable review here
    > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-p510


    Check this one too -

    http://framework.latimes.com/2012/07...-coolpix-p510/

    Has a video plus some example photos. I thought it was a reasonably decent
    camera for the price and features. The S7000 was over $1,000 (duty-free) and
    nowhere near as good. Only problem is the prices are rip-offs here. Amazon seems
    to have better prices. Not sure if they come with an international warranty
    though. Camera also does Full HD video. That's more or less de riguere but it
    does mean you don't need both a video camera and a still camera (most video
    cameras don't have the lens length this one does either).

    Noise isn't a product of lens focal length. The max. focal length is about equal
    to 1,000mm for a 35mm camera. Seems to be OK from the example photo. A fixed
    length lens might be better but it's just not as versatile. Would be nice if the
    lens was a vibration reduction one, perhaps a later model will.

    As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    won't last.

    --
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    - KRudd at his finest.

    "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
    - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

    "This is the recession we had to have!"
    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

    "I don't care what you ****ers think!"
    - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

    "We'll just change it all when we get in."
    - Garrett the carrott

    "There will be no carbon tax."
    - Juliar Dullard

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    Re: Old film

    On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:56:45 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    wrote:

    >flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:19:28 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >>>> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>>>> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >>>>>> wondering. :-)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >>>>>> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >>>>>> I could see.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> What do you guys reckon?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >>>>>> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >>>>>> attached!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >>>>> fool'll buy it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >>>>> Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >>>>> less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >>>>> The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >>>>> on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.
    >>>>
    >>>> Have to be lot's of noise there?
    >>>
    >>> You mean "lots", it's not possessive.

    >>
    >> You are correct, Sir John, as usual.
    >>
    >>> Now what do you mean noise?

    >>
    >> Digital noise in the scene if you shoot with lens at 42x zoom?
    >>
    >> Reasonable review here
    >> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-p510

    >
    >Check this one too -
    >
    >http://framework.latimes.com/2012/07...-coolpix-p510/
    >
    >Has a video plus some example photos. I thought it was a reasonably decent
    >camera for the price and features. The S7000 was over $1,000 (duty-free) and
    >nowhere near as good. Only problem is the prices are rip-offs here. Amazon seems
    >to have better prices. Not sure if they come with an international warranty
    >though. Camera also does Full HD video. That's more or less de riguere but it
    >does mean you don't need both a video camera and a still camera (most video
    >cameras don't have the lens length this one does either).
    >
    >Noise isn't a product of lens focal length. The max. focal length is about equal
    >to 1,000mm for a 35mm camera. Seems to be OK from the example photo. A fixed
    >length lens might be better but it's just not as versatile. Would be nice if the
    >lens was a vibration reduction one, perhaps a later model will.
    >
    >As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    >film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    >won't last.


    Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    any product bought outside Oz; may have changed now Nikon flicked
    them, but I doubt it.

  17. #17
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Oct 4, 6:12*am, flatulantdi...@deadspam.com wrote:

    > >As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    > >film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    > >won't last.


    I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    in the window sill...

    > Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    > any product bought outside Oz; *may have changed now Nikon flicked
    > them, but I doubt it.


    Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...

  18. #18
    Ext User(Trevor) Guest

    Re: Old film


    "Noons" <wizofoz2k@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ed3d6d06-80b0-489b-b55b-efb3183552ce@v19g2000pbt.googlegroups.com...
    > Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    > any product bought outside Oz; may have changed now Nikon flicked
    > them, but I doubt it.


    }Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    }importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    }matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...

    I'm sure Nikon are trembling at your one man boycott :-)

    Trevor.



  19. #19
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    Trevor wrote,on my timestamp of 4/10/2012 10:22 AM:

    > }Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    > }importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    > }matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...
    >
    > I'm sure Nikon are trembling at your one man boycott :-)


    I'm sure I couldn't care less. :-)


  20. #20
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:07:08 -0700 (PDT), Noons <wizofoz2k@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Oct 4, 6:12*am, flatulantdi...@deadspam.com wrote:
    >
    >> >As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    >> >film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    >> >won't last.

    >
    >I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    >for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    >in the window sill...
    >
    >> Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    >> any product bought outside Oz; *may have changed now Nikon flicked
    >> them, but I doubt it.

    >
    >Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    >importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    >matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...



    Canon same same? Never tried them.

    Problem changing brands is the lens - if you have a few of one brand,
    that is; far too expensive to change over.

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