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  1. #21
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 5/10/2012 1:11 AM:

    >>
    >> Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    >> importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    >> matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...

    >
    >
    > Canon same same? Never tried them.


    Dunno, really. Likely the same...


    > Problem changing brands is the lens - if you have a few of one brand,
    > that is; far too expensive to change over.



    Not if you move to mirrorless: same image quality, can mount just about any lens
    on them. I've even got MF lenses mounted in my m4/3!

  2. #22
    Ext User(k) Guest

    Re: Old film


    <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
    news:pv8r68h8rc0jmas32frdo7o4e72h8c1c0k@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:07:08 -0700 (PDT), Noons <wizofoz2k@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Oct 4, 6:12 am, flatulantdi...@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>
    >>> >As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory,
    >>> >colour
    >>> >film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but
    >>> >that
    >>> >won't last.

    >>
    >>I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    >>for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    >>in the window sill...
    >>
    >>> Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    >>> any product bought outside Oz; may have changed now Nikon flicked
    >>> them, but I doubt it.

    >>
    >>Still the same, unfortunately. Bought my D80 years ago from a "grey"
    >>importer, Nikon won't touch it. So I won't buy any more Nikons, no
    >>matter what. Maybe they'll get the message...

    >
    >
    > Canon same same? Never tried them.
    >
    > Problem changing brands is the lens - if you have a few of one brand,
    > that is; far too expensive to change over.


    Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but as
    much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    and intervene on your behalf.

    As to whether boycotts makes any difference - my experience with Nikon was
    that expressing displeasure to the Mother Company well and truly *can* make
    a difference. Maxwell were failing to support Nikon product recalls by not
    putting recall info on the web and also alluding to lenses not being
    warrantied - the parent company were less than impressed by this :)

    k



  3. #23
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    k wrote,on my timestamp of 7/10/2012 5:59 PM:


    > Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but as
    > much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    > If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    > explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    > and intervene on your behalf.


    Interesting info, thanks for that!

    > As to whether boycotts makes any difference - my experience with Nikon was
    > that expressing displeasure to the Mother Company well and truly *can* make
    > a difference. Maxwell were failing to support Nikon product recalls by not
    > putting recall info on the web and also alluding to lenses not being
    > warrantied - the parent company were less than impressed by this :)


    Indeed. They weren't very impressed either when Maxwell refused to sell me a
    special focusing screen for my F6, years ago. Apparently and according to the
    local "support", it was not a current camera, Nikon "only sold dslrs". This was
    a few years ago. Let's just say I got my screen pronto after a couple of emails
    to Japan!


  4. #24
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:32:54 +1100, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >k wrote,on my timestamp of 7/10/2012 5:59 PM:
    >
    >
    >> Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but as
    >> much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    >> If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    >> explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    >> and intervene on your behalf.

    >
    >Interesting info, thanks for that!
    >
    >> As to whether boycotts makes any difference - my experience with Nikon was
    >> that expressing displeasure to the Mother Company well and truly *can* make
    >> a difference. Maxwell were failing to support Nikon product recalls by not
    >> putting recall info on the web and also alluding to lenses not being
    >> warrantied - the parent company were less than impressed by this :)

    >
    >Indeed. They weren't very impressed either when Maxwell refused to sell me a
    >special focusing screen for my F6, years ago. Apparently and according to the
    >local "support", it was not a current camera, Nikon "only sold dslrs". This was
    >a few years ago. Let's just say I got my screen pronto after a couple of emails
    >to Japan!



    How much better is the F6 over the F5?

    Was it ever sold in Oz?

  5. #25
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    > On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:56:45 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    > <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:19:28 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >>> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:51:56 +1000, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    >>>>> <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >>>>>>> Yes, I know it has been asked probably a million times before; just
    >>>>>>> wondering. :-)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Sydney climate, no special care.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Cleaning up I found the following old unused 35mm film:-
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Konica Minolta Monochrome VX400 5 rolls use by01/2007. 400 ASA
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> (This film is for colour processing only; poor man's b&w.)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Konica Minolta Centuria 200 ASA colour use by 03/2008 and 06/2007
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Fujifilm ASA 400 Superia Xtra colour use by 03/2010
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Kodak B&W for C41 colour processing undated in container. Not sure
    >>>>>>> what Kodak called this, as no brand name is on the metal canister that
    >>>>>>> I could see.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> What do you guys reckon?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Fog. Lots and lots of fog. Unless you kept it all refrigerated.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Want to get my old F3HP back into action, which runs still as sweet as
    >>>>>>> a nut. But must weigh about 2kg or more with the motor drive
    >>>>>>> attached!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sell it on eBay and use the money to get a nice digital camera. I'm sure some
    >>>>>> fool'll buy it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I have a Nikon F2. Weighs a ton (well, over 2 lbs. anyway). Hardly use it now.
    >>>>>> Bought a FujiFilm S7000 about 8 or 9 years ago. What a nice change. Weighted
    >>>>>> less than a pound. No huge pentaprism glass. I can't see the need for a DSLR.
    >>>>>> The whole idea's dumb now. My next camera will be a Nikon P510. Less than $400
    >>>>>> on Amazon and comes with 42x zoom. Beats lugging 3 or 4 different lenses around.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Have to be lot's of noise there?
    >>>>
    >>>> You mean "lots", it's not possessive.
    >>>
    >>> You are correct, Sir John, as usual.
    >>>
    >>>> Now what do you mean noise?
    >>>
    >>> Digital noise in the scene if you shoot with lens at 42x zoom?
    >>>
    >>> Reasonable review here
    >>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-p510

    >>
    >> Check this one too -
    >>
    >> http://framework.latimes.com/2012/07...-coolpix-p510/
    >>
    >> Has a video plus some example photos. I thought it was a reasonably decent
    >> camera for the price and features. The S7000 was over $1,000 (duty-free) and
    >> nowhere near as good. Only problem is the prices are rip-offs here. Amazon seems
    >> to have better prices. Not sure if they come with an international warranty
    >> though. Camera also does Full HD video. That's more or less de riguere but it
    >> does mean you don't need both a video camera and a still camera (most video
    >> cameras don't have the lens length this one does either).
    >>
    >> Noise isn't a product of lens focal length. The max. focal length is about equal
    >> to 1,000mm for a 35mm camera. Seems to be OK from the example photo. A fixed
    >> length lens might be better but it's just not as versatile. Would be nice if the
    >> lens was a vibration reduction one, perhaps a later model will.
    >>
    >> As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    >> film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    >> won't last.

    >
    > Last time I looked, Nikon (when run by Maxwell here) would not warrant
    > any product bought outside Oz; may have changed now Nikon flicked
    > them, but I doubt it.


    They used to have an international warranty decades ago. I should check before I
    buy though.

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  6. #26
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    Noons wrote:
    > On Oct 4, 6:12 am, flatulantdi...@deadspam.com wrote:
    >
    >>> As for your films, the older ones will have a lot of fog. From memory, colour
    >>> film get foggy faster (not 100% sure now). The B&W film might be OK but that
    >>> won't last.

    >
    > I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    > for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    > in the window sill...


    It's nothing to do with heat, well not much anyway. The expiry dates are fairly
    accurate. After that, it's pot luck unless you refrigerate them.

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    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

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  7. #27
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    k wrote:
    >
    > Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but as
    > much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    > If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    > explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    > and intervene on your behalf.


    Any idea why it doesn't cover bodies?

    I remember when Mal 'Memphis Pants' Fraser visited Nikon in Japan, on a tour in
    the '70s, they gave him a camera. I wonder what sort of warranty it had. ;-)

    > As to whether boycotts makes any difference - my experience with Nikon was
    > that expressing displeasure to the Mother Company well and truly *can* make
    > a difference. Maxwell were failing to support Nikon product recalls by not
    > putting recall info on the web and also alluding to lenses not being
    > warrantied - the parent company were less than impressed by this :)


    That's rather naughty of them.

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    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
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    - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

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    - Garrett the carrott

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    - Juliar Dullard

  8. #28
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote:
    >
    > How much better is the F6 over the F5?
    >
    > Was it ever sold in Oz?


    I have an F2 I was very happy with. I really wanted an F1 though because the
    viewfinder showed more of the image. Don't recall the details now but with the
    F1 you could see very close to 100% of what would be on the film. The F2 was a
    little less. I remember joking at the time that the viewed image would get
    smaller and smaller with newer models. ;-)

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    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

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  9. #29
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 8/10/2012 6:48 AM:

    > How much better is the F6 over the F5?


    For me, night and day better. Mostly because:
    1- It is a LOT lighter than the F5.
    2- Comes with a built-in motor-drive that doesn't need a trailer to carry
    3- The metering is heaps better than the F5's, with full matrix colour-aware
    metering, full older Ai/AiS lens compatibility, as well as a superb spot meter.
    4- The standard vanilla camera imprints shooting data in between frames as well
    as keeping it in memory - which I can dump as a "csv" file and use with exinfo
    or similar program in the PC for my scanned images. And it keeps exif info for
    even Ai (non-CPU) lenses!
    5- Fully compatible with ALL flash systems Nikon has ever put out, including the
    latest dslr-era ones.
    6- Electronically controlled and configurable from a menu system with a screen
    in the back. Essentially, it's a D2 with a film sensor.
    7- The frame counter although electronic lets me wind back a film mid-roll,
    shoot another, then come back to the frame I stopped at before and continue
    shooting. I can also manually wind back to any frame in a roll, double-expose
    it and go back to the end again. Only the original F could do that before.

    It is indeed a jewel of a camera, even by today's standards. Only wish I had
    bought two bodies way back then, when they were going for peanuts because of the
    digital craze. Nowadays the price has recovered and bargains are a lot harder...

    > Was it ever sold in Oz?


    "ever"??? It *is* sold in Oz, brand new, now!
    Vanbar has it in stock, plus a few other places.
    So is the FM10!

  10. #30
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote,on my timestamp of 8/10/2012 3:44 PM:

    >> I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    >> for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    >> in the window sill...

    >
    > It's nothing to do with heat, well not much anyway. The expiry dates are fairly
    > accurate. After that, it's pot luck unless you refrigerate them.


    Aye, agree to a certain extent. Still, I must say film expired up to 5 years
    has never caused me a problem. Mostly because I scan and I can correct small
    casts at scan time. If I was using an enlarger, life would be a LOT harder...


  11. #31
    Ext User(k) Guest

    Re: Old film


    "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    wrote in message news:50725b97$0$11123$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
    >k wrote:
    >>
    >> Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but
    >> as
    >> much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    >> If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    >> explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    >> and intervene on your behalf.

    >
    > Any idea why it doesn't cover bodies?


    not sure, meh - Nikon's choice to eliminate potential buyers from their
    market..

    My gripe was they were laying crap on vendors in Oz who were selling
    'greymarket' cameras, wrongly alluding to Nikon not supporting any
    warranties whatsoever



  12. #32
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Old film

    On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:29:46 +1100, Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au>
    wrote:

    >Vanbar has it in stock, plus a few other places.
    >So is the FM10!


    The FM10 looks like a student's camera which Nikon will keep for many
    years to come.

    Had a look at the illustration of the F6 on Nikon Australia web site,
    where exactly is the drive mechanism?

  13. #33
    Ext User(Noons) Guest

    Re: Old film

    flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 13/10/2012 11:28 AM:

    > The FM10 looks like a student's camera which Nikon will keep for many
    > years to come.


    Yeah, I agree. It works and meters with all the older lenses, which is excellent
    for students.

    > Had a look at the illustration of the F6 on Nikon Australia web site,
    > where exactly is the drive mechanism?


    Inbuilt in the camera. Just like the F100's. But it also has a rewind crank,
    unlike the F100. Which is handy to reposition film halfway through.
    Wikipedia has a good description and Ken Rockwell's site has a detailed and
    reliable review of it, although you gotta ignore the usual nonsense in his
    writing style.
    You can get it new from HK on ebay for around $1500, which is a much better
    price than the insane $2500 here in Oz. And sometimes it shows up here second
    hand for around that price.

  14. #34
    Ext User(Rob) Guest

    Re: Old film

    On 14/10/2012 2:53 PM, Noons wrote:
    > flatulantdingo@deadspam.com wrote,on my timestamp of 13/10/2012 11:28 AM:
    >
    >> The FM10 looks like a student's camera which Nikon will keep for many
    >> years to come.

    >
    > Yeah, I agree. It works and meters with all the older lenses, which is
    > excellent for students.
    >
    >> Had a look at the illustration of the F6 on Nikon Australia web site,
    >> where exactly is the drive mechanism?

    >
    > Inbuilt in the camera. Just like the F100's. But it also has a rewind
    > crank, unlike the F100. Which is handy to reposition film halfway through.
    > Wikipedia has a good description and Ken Rockwell's site has a detailed
    > and reliable review of it, although you gotta ignore the usual nonsense
    > in his writing style.
    > You can get it new from HK on ebay for around $1500, which is a much
    > better price than the insane $2500 here in Oz. And sometimes it shows up
    > here second hand for around that price.


    When a cheap one shows Ill add it to my collection of F's.

    All my F's have motor drives.

    r

  15. #35
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    k wrote:
    > "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
    > <Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive .had.hot.dinners@kangarooistan.com.au>
    > wrote in message news:50725b97$0$11123$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
    >> k wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Canon warranty is worldwide. Nikon warranty doesn't cover bodies, but
    >>> as
    >>> much as Nikon Aus doesn't like people to know it, it does cover lenses..
    >>> If anyone has any issues with this, feel free to contact Nikon Japan and
    >>> explain the circumstances - they'll happily contact the local Nikon agent
    >>> and intervene on your behalf.

    >>
    >> Any idea why it doesn't cover bodies?

    >
    > not sure, meh - Nikon's choice to eliminate potential buyers from their
    > market..
    >
    > My gripe was they were laying crap on vendors in Oz who were selling
    > 'greymarket' cameras, wrongly alluding to Nikon not supporting any
    > warranties whatsoever


    Yeah, I can understand that.

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    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
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    - Egotistical shithead and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
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    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
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    "I don't care what you ****ers think!"
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    - Juliar Dullard

  16. #36
    Ext User(Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) Guest

    Re: Old film

    Noons wrote:
    > Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote,on my timestamp of 8/10/2012 3:44 PM:
    >
    >>> I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    >>> for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    >>> in the window sill...

    >>
    >> It's nothing to do with heat, well not much anyway. The expiry dates are fairly
    >> accurate. After that, it's pot luck unless you refrigerate them.

    >
    > Aye, agree to a certain extent. Still, I must say film expired up to 5 years has
    > never caused me a problem. Mostly because I scan and I can correct small casts
    > at scan time. If I was using an enlarger, life would be a LOT harder...


    My experiences with this was all with B&W film. I never tried with colour
    although I still have a stock of old Kodachrome and Ektachome film. These all
    expired in the 80s, so it's probably not even worthwhile bothering with (nobody
    processes Kodachrome any more anyway) but the Ilford B&W films tended to fog
    quite quickly.

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    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

    "I don't care what you ****ers think!"
    - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

    "We'll just change it all when we get in."
    - Garrett the carrott

    "There will be no carbon tax."
    - Juliar Dullard

  17. #37
    Ext User(Rob) Guest

    Re: Old film

    On 21/10/2012 10:31 PM, Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:
    > Noons wrote:
    >> Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote,on my timestamp of 8/10/2012 3:44
    >> PM:
    >>
    >>>> I think your memory is more affected by fog than film is. True indeed
    >>>> for 40 year old film. For 10 year old film? Nope. Unless it was stored
    >>>> in the window sill...
    >>>
    >>> It's nothing to do with heat, well not much anyway. The expiry dates
    >>> are fairly
    >>> accurate. After that, it's pot luck unless you refrigerate them.

    >>
    >> Aye, agree to a certain extent. Still, I must say film expired up to 5
    >> years has
    >> never caused me a problem. Mostly because I scan and I can correct
    >> small casts
    >> at scan time. If I was using an enlarger, life would be a LOT harder...

    >
    > My experiences with this was all with B&W film. I never tried with
    > colour although I still have a stock of old Kodachrome and Ektachome
    > film. These all expired in the 80s, so it's probably not even worthwhile
    > bothering with (nobody processes Kodachrome any more anyway) but the
    > Ilford B&W films tended to fog quite quickly.
    >



    Colour loose there couplers. Blacks ain't black when processed.

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