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Thread: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

  1. #1
    Ext User(masonc) Guest

    PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    MasonC

  2. #2
    Ext User(R.Wieser) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    Hello masonc,

    > I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324
    > problems. Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)


    To buy a product from that same company ? Ofcourse not.

    Quite likely its largely Scareware(tm) (like counting each suspect cookie as
    a seperate "problem").

    > Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on
    > my old XP?


    Only a single one: Reinstall XP from scratch (and apply the security patches
    ofcourse)

    After that create a full backup of that drive so you can restore your 'puter
    to a known-to-be-clean state when some infestment actually occurs.

    For laughs: run that "SpeedyPC" product on a fully patched and updated
    install and see how many "problems" it (still) finds.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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    > I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    > Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    > Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    > MasonC




  3. #3
    Ext User(David H. Lipman) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    From: "masonc" <masonc@frontal-lobe.info>

    > I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    > Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    > Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    > MasonC


    Crapware will find "errors and problems" on a PC where the OS was just installed.

    No, don't trust it and REMOVE the software ASAP.


    --
    Dave
    Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
    http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  4. #4
    Ext User(Stef) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    masonc wrote:

    > I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    > Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)


    No.

    Instead download and run the free versions of Malwarebytes
    Antimalware, and SuperAntiSpyware to clean your system of trojans,
    viruses, spyware, adware, etc. They are both legit companies. Run them
    both on a regular basis--at least once a month--to keep your system
    malware free.

    > Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?


    I use CCleaner to clean my system of old files, trash, etc. that
    accumulates on Windows' system. It is similar to XP's Disk Cleaner,
    just more thorough. It also includes a few useful tools.


    Stef

  5. #5
    Ext User(Al Sparber-PVII) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    masonc wrote:
    > I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    > Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    > Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    > MasonC


    Of course you should trust this software called SpeedyPC. It is the
    best known software that can speed up your machine.

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  6. #6
    Ext User(masonc) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc <masonc@frontal-lobe.info>
    wrote:

    >I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    >Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    >Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    >MasonC


    OK, thanks. I ran Ccleaner, seems to be legit, removed a lot of
    stuff.

    Next: It gave me "Maxperforma Optimizer"
    Should I run that?

  7. #7
    Ext User(Tecknomage) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc <masonc@frontal-lobe.info>
    wrote:

    Q> I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    Q> Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    Q> Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    Q> MasonC

    First off, disregard any claim that "cleaners" speed up your PC.
    That's NOT what they are actually for, the claim is a marketing ploy.

    What 'cleaners' actually do is remove missing entries in your Registry
    due to poor uninstallers or entries made by temporary
    installs/updates. They also remove references to missing folders and
    files, and shortcuts that refer to missing files. Clean such thing as
    you ".tmp" files, browser caches, Windows log files, etc.

    One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
    necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
    account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.) but they DO NOT
    HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data
    that tells the site you have an account (the ID is NOT your account
    number).


    The best cleaner I've found, and used, is CCleaner (link below) which
    works for all versions of Windows. It also has [Tools] one of which
    allows you to see what programs are loaded on boot and delete or
    deactivate them. Need I say, be careful with that function, you don't
    want to delete a program that is essential to Windows.

    See the screenshots and features.

    http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

    The only difference between the *free* version and CCleaner Pro, is
    Pro has automatic updates and free support.

    When you register (free or Pro) and give them your eMail, they will
    send a notice of updates.

    I used the free version for years before switching to Pro.

    I highly recommend.


    --
    ======= Tecknomage =======
    San Diego, CA
    "Mage Pages" tech blog at
    http://magepages.blogspot.com



  8. #8
    Ext User(R.Wieser) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    Tecknomage wrote:

    > One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
    > necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
    > account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.)


    Any organisation depending on plain-text data stored on the users machine
    for verification of identity should be sued, shot, and than beheaded to make
    sure they understand that its criminaly stupid to do so.

    Cookies *may* store some persistent data (only when the user permits it),
    but only for trivial stuff (like preferences).

    > the ID is NOT your account number


    It does not matter. If that number is needed to identify yourself with
    than its *bad*. Anyone with access to the computer (in person, but also
    thru viri, trojan-horses and other malware anyone ?) could copy them and use
    them elsewhere.

    Hm, it would even mean you could not access your bank in a so-called
    "private browsing" session, and that would be stupid (to say the least).

    > ... but they DO NOT HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT
    > INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data


    If its a random ID a new one can be generated next time you log in. If
    that is not possible the ID is actually linked to you, which means that the
    "random" might be true in the generation of it, but certainly not in its
    usage. In short: In this context its would be untrue/false statement.

    As for the "other data" ? Could that perhaps also be some other stuff to
    identify you by ? Maybe your full name and address "protected" by some
    ROT13 encoding ? :-)

    In short: Delete those cookies, and sue the cr*p outof anyone who denies you
    access because of them missing.

    Ofcourse, if you could not care less about your privacy I would say you
    should keep all cookies a website, company or (google-sourced) advertisement
    gives you, so you will be easy to follow on the web, no matter which website
    you visit ...

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


    -- Origional message:
    Tecknomage <tecknode@NOSPAM.invalid> schreef in berichtnieuws
    njcot8pbskdvb5rptsbt0fv01nfqtpb11a@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc <masonc@frontal-lobe.info>
    > wrote:
    >
    > Q> I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    > Q> Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    > Q> Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    > Q> MasonC
    >
    > First off, disregard any claim that "cleaners" speed up your PC.
    > That's NOT what they are actually for, the claim is a marketing ploy.
    >
    > What 'cleaners' actually do is remove missing entries in your Registry
    > due to poor uninstallers or entries made by temporary
    > installs/updates. They also remove references to missing folders and
    > files, and shortcuts that refer to missing files. Clean such thing as
    > you ".tmp" files, browser caches, Windows log files, etc.
    >
    > One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
    > necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
    > account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.) but they DO NOT
    > HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data
    > that tells the site you have an account (the ID is NOT your account
    > number).


    <snip>




  9. #9
    Ext User(masonc) Guest

    Re: PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:09:44 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@not.available>
    wrote:

    >Tecknomage wrote:
    >
    >> One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
    >> necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
    >> account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.)

    >

    I have three bank accounts and various similar links.

    My beloved browser, Opera, facilitates removal of "private" data,
    including all cookies. I regularly DELETE ALL COOKIES.
    I have suffered no perceptible bad consequences.

    So there ! Bye bye.

    -----------------------



    >Any organisation depending on plain-text data stored on the users machine
    >for verification of identity should be sued, shot, and than beheaded to make
    >sure they understand that its criminaly stupid to do so.
    >
    >Cookies *may* store some persistent data (only when the user permits it),
    >but only for trivial stuff (like preferences).
    >
    >> the ID is NOT your account number

    >
    >It does not matter. If that number is needed to identify yourself with
    >than its *bad*. Anyone with access to the computer (in person, but also
    >thru viri, trojan-horses and other malware anyone ?) could copy them and use
    >them elsewhere.
    >
    >Hm, it would even mean you could not access your bank in a so-called
    >"private browsing" session, and that would be stupid (to say the least).
    >
    >> ... but they DO NOT HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT
    >> INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data

    >
    >If its a random ID a new one can be generated next time you log in. If
    >that is not possible the ID is actually linked to you, which means that the
    >"random" might be true in the generation of it, but certainly not in its
    >usage. In short: In this context its would be untrue/false statement.
    >
    >As for the "other data" ? Could that perhaps also be some other stuff to
    >identify you by ? Maybe your full name and address "protected" by some
    >ROT13 encoding ? :-)
    >
    >In short: Delete those cookies, and sue the cr*p outof anyone who denies you
    >access because of them missing.
    >
    >Ofcourse, if you could not care less about your privacy I would say you
    >should keep all cookies a website, company or (google-sourced) advertisement
    >gives you, so you will be easy to follow on the web, no matter which website
    >you visit ...
    >
    >Regards,
    >Rudy Wieser
    >
    >
    >-- Origional message:
    >Tecknomage <tecknode@NOSPAM.invalid> schreef in berichtnieuws
    >njcot8pbskdvb5rptsbt0fv01nfqtpb11a@4ax.com...
    >> On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc <masonc@frontal-lobe.info>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> Q> I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
    >> Q> Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
    >> Q> Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
    >> Q> MasonC
    >>
    >> First off, disregard any claim that "cleaners" speed up your PC.
    >> That's NOT what they are actually for, the claim is a marketing ploy.
    >>
    >> What 'cleaners' actually do is remove missing entries in your Registry
    >> due to poor uninstallers or entries made by temporary
    >> installs/updates. They also remove references to missing folders and
    >> files, and shortcuts that refer to missing files. Clean such thing as
    >> you ".tmp" files, browser caches, Windows log files, etc.
    >>
    >> One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
    >> necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
    >> account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.) but they DO NOT
    >> HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data
    >> that tells the site you have an account (the ID is NOT your account
    >> number).

    >
    ><snip>
    >
    >


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