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  1. #1
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    Bob H wrote:
    > On 19/08/2013 17:48, Johnny wrote:
    >> On 8/13/2013 2:31 PM, Bob H wrote:
    >>> I have a Viao laptop with winXP sp3 installed, and have installed all
    >>> the drivers from Sony's website for that particular model laptop.
    >>>
    >>> I have checked all the settings in control panel / sounds and devices.
    >>> The volume is up to a listenable level, the speakers selected are Laptop
    >>> stereo speakers, but no sound.
    >>>
    >>> I have looked in Device Mangler for any yellow exclamation marks and
    >>> there are none. When I check the properties of the Realtek High
    >>> Definition audio device, it says its working properly.
    >>>
    >>> I have uninstalled the Realtek HD audio device and also the Microsoft
    >>> UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio.
    >>> I then used CCleaner to clean the system and registry, as well as doing
    >>> a boot time scan with avast antivirus.
    >>>
    >>> Then I reinstalled the Realtek HD driver after a reboot, checked Device
    >>> Mangler and again no yellow exclamation marks or error messages.
    >>>
    >>> Checking the properties of the Realtek HD definition audio, it says
    >>> Location: Location 65535(Internal High Definition Audio , and Device
    >>> Status says that it is working properly.
    >>>
    >>> I have googled this problem and there are loads (100's) of hits on it,
    >>> but most of what I read were not for my Sony Viao or for the specific
    >>> problem as in Working ok, but no sound!
    >>>
    >>> I haven't tried with headphones but have with a pair of desktop
    >>> speakers, and there was no sound from them either.
    >>>
    >>> Everything else works fine.
    >>>
    >>> Any other ideas or possible fixes for this, because it has me beat so
    >>> far.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> See if this helps:
    >> http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...audio-bus.html
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I don't have any yellow flags in DM and all is being reported as working
    > normally, despite that the sound device and modem device on Location
    > 65535 and no sound from either


    I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...

    http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates

    http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip

    http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip

    and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.

    You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    and silently consume the played-back audio.

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg

    On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    being able to make connections.

    On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.

    Paul

  2. #2
    Ext User(Bob H) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    On 20/08/2013 18:20, Paul wrote:

    >
    > I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...
    >
    > http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates
    >
    > http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip
    >
    > http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip
    >
    > and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    > addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.
    >
    > You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    > rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    > and silently consume the played-back audio.
    >
    > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg
    >
    > On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    > if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    > on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    > LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    > on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    > but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    > you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    > to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    > nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    > a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    > doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    > being able to make connections.
    >
    > On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    > RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    > digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    > I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.
    >
    > Paul


    Both the modem and audio drivers are or were already upto date.

    Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones, I
    didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.

    The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    Speaker or Headphones

  3. #3
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    Bob H wrote:
    > On 20/08/2013 18:20, Paul wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...
    >>
    >> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates
    >>
    >> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip
    >>
    >> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip
    >>
    >> and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    >> addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.
    >>
    >> You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    >> rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    >> and silently consume the played-back audio.
    >>
    >> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg
    >>
    >> On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    >> if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    >> on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    >> LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    >> on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    >> but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    >> you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    >> to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    >> nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    >> a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    >> doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    >> being able to make connections.
    >>
    >> On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    >> RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    >> digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    >> I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > Both the modem and audio drivers are or were already upto date.
    >
    > Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones, I
    > didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
    >
    > The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    > the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    > Speaker or Headphones


    The 260 is a pretty basic stereo device. But it also happens
    to have S/PDIF. If the hardware is not connected to anything, then
    the INF file should be preventing them from being an option. If the sound
    is redirected to the S/PDIF ports, then that would be reasonably consistent
    with your symptoms (sound goes off to no-where).

    http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...nn=4&ProdID=39

    In the installer folder, I see "RTHDCPL.exe" and I expect that is
    the control panel for the RealTek audio. You might see that running
    in Task Manager, while the RealTek control panel is running.

    The INF files in those installers are pretty big, and I can't
    see any obvious pattern to that one (i.e. how the file knows
    which sections of the INF to apply).

    I wish I knew of a utility that could "map the plumbing" and
    indicate what is connected logically. That would help identify
    where the sound samples are going when you play something.

    The dxdiag.exe utility knows some things about multimedia, but
    I don't know if it can help identify what is up with the audio.

    I thought it was WinAMP, which had the ability to play output to
    more than one destination. Perhaps WinAMP has a list of destinations
    and can identify all the ways your sound samples could "get lost" ?

    Paul

  4. #4
    Ext User(Bob H) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    On 20/08/2013 22:35, Paul wrote:
    > Bob H wrote:
    >> On 20/08/2013 18:20, Paul wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...
    >>>
    >>> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates
    >>>
    >>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip
    >>>
    >>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip
    >>>
    >>> and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    >>> addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.
    >>>
    >>> You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    >>> rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    >>> and silently consume the played-back audio.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg
    >>>
    >>> On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    >>> if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    >>> on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    >>> LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    >>> on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    >>> but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    >>> you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    >>> to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    >>> nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    >>> a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    >>> doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    >>> being able to make connections.
    >>>
    >>> On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    >>> RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    >>> digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    >>> I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >>
    >> Both the modem and audio drivers are or were already upto date.
    >>
    >> Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
    >> I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
    >>
    >> The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    >> the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    >> Speaker or Headphones

    >
    > The 260 is a pretty basic stereo device. But it also happens
    > to have S/PDIF. If the hardware is not connected to anything, then
    > the INF file should be preventing them from being an option. If the sound
    > is redirected to the S/PDIF ports, then that would be reasonably consistent
    > with your symptoms (sound goes off to no-where).
    >
    > http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...nn=4&ProdID=39
    >
    >
    > In the installer folder, I see "RTHDCPL.exe" and I expect that is
    > the control panel for the RealTek audio. You might see that running
    > in Task Manager, while the RealTek control panel is running.
    >
    > The INF files in those installers are pretty big, and I can't
    > see any obvious pattern to that one (i.e. how the file knows
    > which sections of the INF to apply).
    >
    > I wish I knew of a utility that could "map the plumbing" and
    > indicate what is connected logically. That would help identify
    > where the sound samples are going when you play something.
    >
    > The dxdiag.exe utility knows some things about multimedia, but
    > I don't know if it can help identify what is up with the audio.
    >
    > I thought it was WinAMP, which had the ability to play output to
    > more than one destination. Perhaps WinAMP has a list of destinations
    > and can identify all the ways your sound samples could "get lost" ?
    >
    > Paul


    The Realtek Audio Control Manager does sit in the quick view? part of
    the toolbar, and when I right click on it I get the Realtek panel or
    window up.

    I have just found that by clicking the Tool button in the DIGITAL
    section that brings up another window/panel with S/PDIF in/Out Settings.
    These are Output Sampling Rate and Output Source.

    Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
    No S/PDIF output
    Output digital audio source.

    The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
    actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
    will come out through SPDIF-Out.

    In WinAmp | Preferences|Plugins| Output, I changed the output to
    Nullsoft Wave Output out_wav.dll and then clicked configure to choose
    either Realtek HD Output or Microsoft Sound Mapper. I tried both
    actually, but no sound,
    Then I selected Nullsoft DirectSound Output out_ds.dll, and again chose
    either the Realtek HD device or Primary Sound Driver. Still no sound
    either from speakers or headphones.

    I would like to know exactly what Location 65535 is, but googling it
    doesn't give me the information I want.
    And like you if I knew where the actual sound was going to, 'map the
    plumbing' as you say.

    Thanks

  5. #5
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    Bob H wrote:
    > On 20/08/2013 22:35, Paul wrote:
    >> Bob H wrote:
    >>> On 20/08/2013 18:20, Paul wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates
    >>>>
    >>>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip
    >>>>
    >>>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip
    >>>>
    >>>> and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    >>>> addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.
    >>>>
    >>>> You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    >>>> rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    >>>> and silently consume the played-back audio.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>> On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    >>>> if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    >>>> on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    >>>> LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    >>>> on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    >>>> but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    >>>> you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    >>>> to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    >>>> nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    >>>> a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    >>>> doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    >>>> being able to make connections.
    >>>>
    >>>> On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    >>>> RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    >>>> digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    >>>> I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.
    >>>>
    >>>> Paul
    >>>
    >>> Both the modem and audio drivers are or were already upto date.
    >>>
    >>> Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
    >>> I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
    >>>
    >>> The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    >>> the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    >>> Speaker or Headphones

    >>
    >> The 260 is a pretty basic stereo device. But it also happens
    >> to have S/PDIF. If the hardware is not connected to anything, then
    >> the INF file should be preventing them from being an option. If the sound
    >> is redirected to the S/PDIF ports, then that would be reasonably
    >> consistent
    >> with your symptoms (sound goes off to no-where).
    >>
    >> http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...nn=4&ProdID=39
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> In the installer folder, I see "RTHDCPL.exe" and I expect that is
    >> the control panel for the RealTek audio. You might see that running
    >> in Task Manager, while the RealTek control panel is running.
    >>
    >> The INF files in those installers are pretty big, and I can't
    >> see any obvious pattern to that one (i.e. how the file knows
    >> which sections of the INF to apply).
    >>
    >> I wish I knew of a utility that could "map the plumbing" and
    >> indicate what is connected logically. That would help identify
    >> where the sound samples are going when you play something.
    >>
    >> The dxdiag.exe utility knows some things about multimedia, but
    >> I don't know if it can help identify what is up with the audio.
    >>
    >> I thought it was WinAMP, which had the ability to play output to
    >> more than one destination. Perhaps WinAMP has a list of destinations
    >> and can identify all the ways your sound samples could "get lost" ?
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > The Realtek Audio Control Manager does sit in the quick view? part of
    > the toolbar, and when I right click on it I get the Realtek panel or
    > window up.
    >
    > I have just found that by clicking the Tool button in the DIGITAL
    > section that brings up another window/panel with S/PDIF in/Out Settings.
    > These are Output Sampling Rate and Output Source.
    >
    > Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
    > No S/PDIF output
    > Output digital audio source.
    >
    > The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
    > actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
    > will come out through SPDIF-Out.
    >
    > In WinAmp | Preferences|Plugins| Output, I changed the output to
    > Nullsoft Wave Output out_wav.dll and then clicked configure to choose
    > either Realtek HD Output or Microsoft Sound Mapper. I tried both
    > actually, but no sound,
    > Then I selected Nullsoft DirectSound Output out_ds.dll, and again chose
    > either the Realtek HD device or Primary Sound Driver. Still no sound
    > either from speakers or headphones.
    >
    > I would like to know exactly what Location 65535 is, but googling it
    > doesn't give me the information I want.
    > And like you if I knew where the actual sound was going to, 'map the
    > plumbing' as you say.
    >
    > Thanks


    Well, WinAmp was my last hope. As it's the only application I know of
    right off hand, that makes better usage of the sound facilities.

    Most applications make use of the system mixer (kmixer?) and with that,
    the "sound comes out of the device you select in the control panel". That's
    rather limiting, if say, something kmixer-related is broken.

    WinAmp shows the true capability. If the programmer spends the time to
    write the appropriate linkage, it's possible to drive more than one
    output, at the same time.

    And along the same lines, WinAmp should also be able to show a list of
    devices (analog or digital) that samples could flow out of.

    About the only other way I know of, to bypass kmixer (if it's broken),
    is with ASIO. But this has nothing to do with your situation right now.
    There is an ASIO4ALL driver, for adding ASIO to non-ASIO sound devices,
    but it's still missing the flexibility of the WinAmp style of solution.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

    Since I don't know of any other "plumbing related" programs than that,
    I've run out of ammunition :-) WinAmp is about as close as you're going
    to get, if some intermediate plumbing is broken.

    Paul

  6. #6
    Ext User(Bob H) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    On 21/08/2013 12:10, Paul wrote:
    > Bob H wrote:
    >> On 20/08/2013 22:35, Paul wrote:
    >>> Bob H wrote:
    >>>> On 20/08/2013 18:20, Paul wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I was looking through the original two WinXP drivers...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/pro...FS285B/updates
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Modem.zip
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://download.sony-europe.com/PUB/.../FS2_Audio.zip
    >>>>>
    >>>>> and it occurs to me the RealTek has S/PDIF (digital) output, in
    >>>>> addition to the regular 5.1 analog audio.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You would want to make sure something like "Speakers" is selected,
    >>>>> rather than select the S/PDIF. The S/PDIF would be a digital sink,
    >>>>> and silently consume the played-back audio.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSwebsite/images/pin/spdif.jpg
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On some laptops, the S/PDIF is connected to TOSLink, and
    >>>>> if you look into the barrel of the lime-green Line_Out connector
    >>>>> on the computer, you'll see a red glow. And that's the TOSLink
    >>>>> LED, suitable for a TOSLink cable with the right shaped connector
    >>>>> on the end, to fit into the 1/8" connector. Not that it matters,
    >>>>> but that's what the S/PDIF sometimes leads to. It isn't often
    >>>>> you'd find a coaxial S/PDIF on a laptop, as that's too clunky
    >>>>> to implement. Whereas the optical output with the red LED is
    >>>>> nice and cheap - and can be fitted as a "dual function" to
    >>>>> a Line Out or headphones jack. (That's because, the red LED function,
    >>>>> doesn't get in the way of the normal electrical contacts from
    >>>>> being able to make connections.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On some of the even older audio chips, you have to go to the
    >>>>> RealTek custom control panel (mixer panel etc), and the
    >>>>> digital output can be switched/enabled in there. The picture
    >>>>> I show above, is probably from Windows 7 rather than WinXP.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Paul
    >>>>
    >>>> Both the modem and audio drivers are or were already upto date.
    >>>>
    >>>> Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
    >>>> I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    >>>> the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    >>>> Speaker or Headphones
    >>>
    >>> The 260 is a pretty basic stereo device. But it also happens
    >>> to have S/PDIF. If the hardware is not connected to anything, then
    >>> the INF file should be preventing them from being an option. If the
    >>> sound
    >>> is redirected to the S/PDIF ports, then that would be reasonably
    >>> consistent
    >>> with your symptoms (sound goes off to no-where).
    >>>
    >>> http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...nn=4&ProdID=39
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> In the installer folder, I see "RTHDCPL.exe" and I expect that is
    >>> the control panel for the RealTek audio. You might see that running
    >>> in Task Manager, while the RealTek control panel is running.
    >>>
    >>> The INF files in those installers are pretty big, and I can't
    >>> see any obvious pattern to that one (i.e. how the file knows
    >>> which sections of the INF to apply).
    >>>
    >>> I wish I knew of a utility that could "map the plumbing" and
    >>> indicate what is connected logically. That would help identify
    >>> where the sound samples are going when you play something.
    >>>
    >>> The dxdiag.exe utility knows some things about multimedia, but
    >>> I don't know if it can help identify what is up with the audio.
    >>>
    >>> I thought it was WinAMP, which had the ability to play output to
    >>> more than one destination. Perhaps WinAMP has a list of destinations
    >>> and can identify all the ways your sound samples could "get lost" ?
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >>
    >> The Realtek Audio Control Manager does sit in the quick view? part of
    >> the toolbar, and when I right click on it I get the Realtek panel or
    >> window up.
    >>
    >> I have just found that by clicking the Tool button in the DIGITAL
    >> section that brings up another window/panel with S/PDIF in/Out Settings.
    >> These are Output Sampling Rate and Output Source.
    >>
    >> Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
    >> No S/PDIF output
    >> Output digital audio source.
    >>
    >> The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
    >> actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3
    >> etc) will come out through SPDIF-Out.
    >>
    >> In WinAmp | Preferences|Plugins| Output, I changed the output to
    >> Nullsoft Wave Output out_wav.dll and then clicked configure to choose
    >> either Realtek HD Output or Microsoft Sound Mapper. I tried both
    >> actually, but no sound,
    >> Then I selected Nullsoft DirectSound Output out_ds.dll, and again
    >> chose either the Realtek HD device or Primary Sound Driver. Still no
    >> sound either from speakers or headphones.
    >>
    >> I would like to know exactly what Location 65535 is, but googling it
    >> doesn't give me the information I want.
    >> And like you if I knew where the actual sound was going to, 'map the
    >> plumbing' as you say.
    >>
    >> Thanks

    >
    > Well, WinAmp was my last hope. As it's the only application I know of
    > right off hand, that makes better usage of the sound facilities.
    >
    > Most applications make use of the system mixer (kmixer?) and with that,
    > the "sound comes out of the device you select in the control panel". That's
    > rather limiting, if say, something kmixer-related is broken.
    >
    > WinAmp shows the true capability. If the programmer spends the time to
    > write the appropriate linkage, it's possible to drive more than one
    > output, at the same time.
    >
    > And along the same lines, WinAmp should also be able to show a list of
    > devices (analog or digital) that samples could flow out of.
    >
    > About the only other way I know of, to bypass kmixer (if it's broken),
    > is with ASIO. But this has nothing to do with your situation right now.
    > There is an ASIO4ALL driver, for adding ASIO to non-ASIO sound devices,
    > but it's still missing the flexibility of the WinAmp style of solution.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output
    >
    > Since I don't know of any other "plumbing related" programs than that,
    > I've run out of ammunition :-) WinAmp is about as close as you're going
    > to get, if some intermediate plumbing is broken.
    >
    > Paul


    I installed ASIO on the laptop and pressed the 'Generate a signal'
    button but no sound came out.

    Thanks for your help.

  7. #7
    Ext User(J. P. Gilliver (John)) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    In message <Voydnep_D8Z0H4nPnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Bob H
    <bob@despammer.com> writes:
    []
    >Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
    >No S/PDIF output
    >Output digital audio source.
    >
    >The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
    >actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
    >will come out through SPDIF-Out.

    []
    Can you select the first button (no S/PDIF output)? From what Paul's
    saying, having the second one selected will kill the analogue audio.
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  8. #8
    Ext User(J. P. Gilliver (John)) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    In message <5LWdnZph_Y2eJY7PnZ2dnUVZ8iWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Bob H
    <bob@despammer.com> writes:
    []
    >Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
    >I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.


    You have physical outputs for both speakers and headphones?
    >
    >The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    >the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    >Speaker or Headphones


    I think that affects how the sound is shaped, to come out via the same
    socket. (In other words I think the other socket is the [microphone]
    INput.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Nunc Tutus Exitus Computarus (It is now safe to turn off your computer).

  9. #9
    Ext User(Bob H) Guest

    Re: No sound with WinXP Location 65535

    On 22/08/2013 07:27, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    > In message <5LWdnZph_Y2eJY7PnZ2dnUVZ8iWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Bob H
    > <bob@despammer.com> writes:
    > []
    >> Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
    >> I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.

    >
    > You have physical outputs for both speakers and headphones?
    >>
    >> The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
    >> the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
    >> Speaker or Headphones

    >
    > I think that affects how the sound is shaped, to come out via the same
    > socket. (In other words I think the other socket is the [microphone] INput.


    After selecting the 1st option : no S/PDIF output, it did not make any
    difference, still no sound.
    Yes there are 2 outputs: 1 for headphones and the other for external
    speakers.


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