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Thread: Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

  1. #1
    Ext User(Zajac) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:41:00 -0700, Bob_Villa wrote:

    > If this is a Dell (and bought in the US) they will send
    > you one free disc for the original OS.
    > And most likely, SP3 included.


    Hi Bob,
    You and Bear were right on the money!

    They sent me WinXP Professional with SP3 for free!

    Here's a picture of what arrived yesterday:
    http://i39.tinypic.com/33jl1c6.gif

    It turns out that it's trivially EASY to get a new CDROM of
    Windows XP professional, from just a single telephone call!

    Thanks everyone!

    Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    Do you think that will matter?


  2. #2
    Ext User(Wolf K) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On 2013-08-20 6:01 PM, Zajac wrote:
    [...]
    > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    > Do you think that will matter?


    Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    to you).

    HTH

    --
    Best,
    Wolf K
    kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

  3. #3
    Ext User(FromTheRafters) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400
    Wolf K <wekirch@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    > On 2013-08-20 6:01 PM, Zajac wrote:
    > [...]
    > > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    > > Do you think that will matter?

    >
    > Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    > to you).


    I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    determines which version gets installed from the disc.

  4. #4
    Ext User(...winston) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    That would be correct for Windows 7 retail disks since all versions of
    Windows are included on media.
    - the product key determines the version and type (full/upgrade)

    Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and report
    the results.

    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp consumer apps

    "FromTheRafters" wrote in message
    news:20130820203311.07a5acd8.erratic@nomail.afraid .org...

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400
    Wolf K <wekirch@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    > On 2013-08-20 6:01 PM, Zajac wrote:
    > [...]
    > > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    > > Do you think that will matter?

    >
    > Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    > to you).


    I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    determines which version gets installed from the disc.


  5. #5
    Ext User(Zajac) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

    > Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    > to you).


    I don't even know what "media center" is, but, I use the classic
    freeware for videos, "Windows Media Classic", which works just fine
    for what I need.


  6. #6
    Ext User(Zajac) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:33:13 +0000, FromTheRafters wrote:

    > I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    > determines which version gets installed from the disc.


    Dell Support told me that I didn't need a key and that the
    disc would generate their own key when it is installed.


  7. #7
    Ext User(Zajac) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:44 -0400, ...winston wrote:

    > Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    > media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and report
    > the results.


    The media disc clearly says Windows XP Professional, and, the
    Dell support folks told me I didn't need a key ... that the
    disk would generate its own key.

    Someone familiar with Dell installation disks would know
    better than I though ...


  8. #8
    Ext User(Timothy Daniels) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    My Dell reinstallation DVD, ordered for 64-bit Win7 Pro this past Spring,
    contains Media Center.

    *TimDaniels*

    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    > That would be correct for Windows 7 retail disks since all versions of
    > Windows are included on media.
    > - the product key determines the version and type (full/upgrade)
    >
    > Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    > media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and report
    > the results.
    >
    > --
    > ...winston
    > msft mvp consumer apps
    >
    > "FromTheRafters" wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400
    > Wolf K <wekirch@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    >
    >> On 2013-08-20 6:01 PM, Zajac wrote:
    >> [...]
    >> > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    >> > Do you think that will matter?

    >>
    >> Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    >> to you).

    >
    > I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    > determines which version gets installed from the disc.
    >




  9. #9
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    Zajac wrote:
    > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:33:13 +0000, FromTheRafters wrote:
    >
    >> I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    >> determines which version gets installed from the disc.

    >
    > Dell Support told me that I didn't need a key and that the
    > disc would generate their own key when it is installed.
    >


    If it's a Dell disc, being installed on a Dell PC, the
    BIOS SLIC table provides authentication for activation.
    It will activate without a problem.

    If you tried to install the Dell disk on a non-Dell computer,
    the BIOS would not have the correct SLIC table, and so
    there would be a problem activating it. The OS would
    contact the Microsoft activation server. And the key
    information would indicate it was a Dell disk being
    used for other than its intended purpose.

    There are some discs, which it is claimed, will work
    on anything. But we haven't had any posters here,
    back up those claims by buying said discs from Ebay :-)
    These may have been Fujitsu OEM discs. I don't know
    any details on this.

    The difference between Home and Pro, is Pro supports
    things like domains (good for corporate IT). And the
    other difference is the number of processor sockets.

    "Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors
    regardless of the number of cores on the processor.

    Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor."

    That means you can use a dual socket motherboard with
    WinXP Pro. Like one of these.

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-131-817-Z03?$S640W$

    Paul

  10. #10
    Ext User(mike) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On 8/20/2013 8:05 PM, Zajac wrote:
    > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:44 -0400, ...winston wrote:
    >
    >> Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    >> media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and report
    >> the results.

    >
    > The media disc clearly says Windows XP Professional, and, the
    > Dell support folks told me I didn't need a key ... that the
    > disk would generate its own key.
    >
    > Someone familiar with Dell installation disks would know
    > better than I though ...
    >

    I can tell you that a dell xp home disk will install xp home
    on any dell hardware.
    a dell xp pro disk will install pro on any dell computer.
    Both will self-activate without an internet connection.
    If I remember correctly, a dell disk installed on a non-dell
    computer will ask for a key and require online/or phone activation.
    Not sure which versions of keys work. OEM? retail? other?
    The keys I had at the time didn't.
    Had a gateway disk that worked the same way on gateways.

    I'm told that there exist disks that spoof the hardware info
    and install on anything...but I've no idea where to get one.

    Had a gateway disk that worked the same way on gateways.

  11. #11
    Ext User(hummingbird) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:01:59 +0000 (UTC), Zajac wrote :
    > On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:41:00 -0700, Bob_Villa wrote:
    >
    > > If this is a Dell (and bought in the US) they will send
    > > you one free disc for the original OS.
    > > And most likely, SP3 included.

    >
    > Hi Bob,
    > You and Bear were right on the money!
    >
    > They sent me WinXP Professional with SP3 for free!
    >
    > Here's a picture of what arrived yesterday:
    > http://i39.tinypic.com/33jl1c6.gif
    >
    > It turns out that it's trivially EASY to get a new CDROM of
    > Windows XP professional, from just a single telephone call!
    >
    > Thanks everyone!
    >
    > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    > Do you think that will matter?
    >


    Keep the faith. Yer get the best advice in this group. Especially from me
    and Bear.


    hb
    --
    "All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
    and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
    (Arthur Schopenhauer)

  12. #12
    Ext User(Anonymous) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    ....winston wrote:
    > That would be correct for Windows 7 retail disks since all versions of
    > Windows are included on media.
    > - the product key determines the version and type (full/upgrade)



    Hello ...winston :-)

    That sounds like a very plausible answer.

    How are things at Annexcafe User2User nowadays?


    > Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    > media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and
    > report the results.
    >
    > --
    > ...winston
    > msft mvp consumer apps


  13. #13
    Ext User(Wolf K) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On 2013-08-20 11:03 PM, Zajac wrote:
    > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
    >
    >> Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    >> to you).

    >
    > I don't even know what "media center" is, but, I use the classic
    > freeware for videos, "Windows Media Classic", which works just fine
    > for what I need.


    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/w...s-media-center

    People who've used it mostly say it works well.

    --
    Best,
    Wolf K
    kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

  14. #14
    Ext User(Dave) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:33:53 -0400, Paul wrote:

    > Zajac wrote:
    >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:33:13 +0000, FromTheRafters wrote:
    >>

    >


    >
    > The difference between Home and Pro, is Pro supports things like domains
    > (good for corporate IT). And the other difference is the number of
    > processor sockets.
    >
    > "Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors
    > regardless of the number of cores on the processor.
    >
    > Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor."
    >
    > That means you can use a dual socket motherboard with WinXP Pro. Like
    > one of these.
    >
    > http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-131-817-Z03?$S640W$
    >
    > Paul


    I think also Professional comes with Virtual PC. However, I find Oracle
    VirtualBox works for more general use. I run the built in winxp in Virtual
    PC, which I believe only runs MS stuff.


  15. #15
    Ext User(Dustin) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    Zajac <Zajac@example.com> wrote in news:kv1aq8$9us$3@news.mixmin.net:

    > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:44 -0400, ...winston wrote:
    >
    >> Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    >> media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and
    >> report the results.

    >
    > The media disc clearly says Windows XP Professional, and, the
    > Dell support folks told me I didn't need a key ... that the
    > disk would generate its own key.


    It's not generating it's own key. it's bios locked via a text string to your
    Dell. You won't even be asked to enter a key.

    > Someone familiar with Dell installation disks would know
    > better than I though ...


    The disc has four modified (as in, they are different than a real oem/vlk
    disc) bin files on it. These tag it to your Dell.



    --
    http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/cacti.jpg

  16. #16
    Ext User(Dustin) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote in news:kv1mc8$b9q$1@dont-email.me:

    > On 8/20/2013 8:05 PM, Zajac wrote:
    >> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:44 -0400, ...winston wrote:
    >>
    >>> Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    >>> media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and
    >>> report the results.

    >>
    >> The media disc clearly says Windows XP Professional, and, the
    >> Dell support folks told me I didn't need a key ... that the
    >> disk would generate its own key.
    >>
    >> Someone familiar with Dell installation disks would know
    >> better than I though ...
    >>

    > I can tell you that a dell xp home disk will install xp home
    > on any dell hardware.
    > a dell xp pro disk will install pro on any dell computer.
    > Both will self-activate without an internet connection.
    > If I remember correctly, a dell disk installed on a non-dell
    > computer will ask for a key and require online/or phone activation.
    > Not sure which versions of keys work. OEM? retail? other?


    OEM works. They're modified OEM installs. they'll accept any OEM key if you
    load them on a non keyed system. (BIOS tagged I mean)

    > The keys I had at the time didn't.
    > Had a gateway disk that worked the same way on gateways.
    >
    > I'm told that there exist disks that spoof the hardware info
    > and install on anything...but I've no idea where to get one.


    Yes, you swap out four bin files to tag it to whatever name brand your
    heading for.



    --
    http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/cacti.jpg

  17. #17
    Ext User(...winston) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    Anonymous wrote:
    > ...winston wrote:
    >> That would be correct for Windows 7 retail disks since all versions of
    >> Windows are included on media.
    >> - the product key determines the version and type (full/upgrade)

    >
    >
    > Hello ...winston :-)
    >
    > That sounds like a very plausible answer.
    >
    > How are things at Annexcafe User2User nowadays?
    >
    >
    > > Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    > > media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and
    > > report the results.
    > >
    > > --
    > > ...winston
    > > msft mvp consumer apps


    Depends on who is asking <g>

    ...w

  18. #18
    Ext User(...winston) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    Dave wrote:
    > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:33:53 -0400, Paul wrote:
    >
    >> Zajac wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:33:13 +0000, FromTheRafters wrote:
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >>
    >> The difference between Home and Pro, is Pro supports things like domains
    >> (good for corporate IT). And the other difference is the number of
    >> processor sockets.
    >>
    >> "Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors
    >> regardless of the number of cores on the processor.
    >>
    >> Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor."
    >>
    >> That means you can use a dual socket motherboard with WinXP Pro. Like
    >> one of these.
    >>
    >> http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-131-817-Z03?$S640W$
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > I think also Professional comes with Virtual PC. However, I find Oracle
    > VirtualBox works for more general use. I run the built in winxp in Virtual
    > PC, which I believe only runs MS stuff.
    >

    Normally one downloads and installs XP Mode and Virtual PC, then sets up
    XP Mode for use and if desired additional program installation including
    updating Windows to the latest available program and security updates
    (well over 100 recommended and optional items post XPSp3).

    ...winston
    msft mvp consumer apps

  19. #19
    Ext User(...winston) Guest

    Re: Is it possible to download a legal ISO of Windows XP Home

    Timothy Daniels wrote:
    > My Dell reinstallation DVD, ordered for 64-bit Win7 Pro this past Spring,
    > contains Media Center.
    >
    > *TimDaniels*
    >
    > "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> That would be correct for Windows 7 retail disks since all versions of
    >> Windows are included on media.
    >> - the product key determines the version and type (full/upgrade)
    >>
    >> Whether or not consistent (all versions included) for OEM provided
    >> media....someone with that media will have to explore their media and
    >> report the results.
    >>
    >> --
    >> ...winston
    >> msft mvp consumer apps
    >>
    >> "FromTheRafters" wrote:
    >>
    >> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:13:28 -0400
    >> Wolf K <wekirch@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 2013-08-20 6:01 PM, Zajac wrote:
    >>> [...]
    >>> > Note: I asked for Windows XP Home though, but they sent Pro.
    >>> > Do you think that will matter?
    >>>
    >>> Shouldn't, but check whether it includes Media Center (if that matters
    >>> to you).

    >>
    >> I don't know if it is or even was true, but I had heard that your key
    >> determines which version gets installed from the disc.

    >
    >

    Windows Media Center is included on all versions of XP Media Center
    editions, Vista Home Premium and Ultimate (not Business), all editions
    of Windows 7 except Start and Home Basic, and is available as a 'Add
    Feature' only on Windows 8 Professional (not Windows 8 or Enterprise)

    Afaik, OEM's abide by the above constraints for their pre-installed
    versions.

    --
    ...winston
    msft mvp consumer apps

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