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    Ext User(David Clayton) Guest

    Tanks for the memories....

    IIRC Melbourne a couple of years ago were found guilty of basically not
    doing everything possible to win matches so they could gain an advantage
    from losing.

    Haven't Fremantle just done the same thing by basically throwing a match
    against a bottom of the ladder side that has had one of their worst
    seasons for years and had no expectation to be close to competitive
    against a top 4 side?

    The Fremantle selections for the St.Kilda match were obviously not
    intended to give them a competitive side, so since all of these selections
    were in Fremantle's control it was a deliberate decision to reduce their
    chances of winning. Who is going to be held responsible?

    If it's good enough for one club to be penalised for not trying to win,
    it's good enough for all of them.

    --
    Regards, David.

    David Clayton
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
    Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
    measure of how many questions you have.


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    Ext User(David J Richardson) Guest

    Re: Tanks for the memories....

    In article <pan.2013.08.31.07.28.16.114581@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.a u>,
    David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> wrote:

    > IIRC Melbourne a couple of years ago were found guilty of basically
    > not doing everything possible to win matches so they could gain an
    > advantage from losing.
    >
    > Haven't Fremantle just done the same thing by basically throwing a
    > match against a bottom of the ladder side that has had one of their
    > worst seasons for years and had no expectation to be close to
    > competitive against a top 4 side?
    >
    > The Fremantle selections for the St.Kilda match were obviously not
    > intended to give them a competitive side, so since all of these
    > selections were in Fremantle's control it was a deliberate decision
    > to reduce their chances of winning. Who is going to be held
    > responsible?
    >
    > If it's good enough for one club to be penalised for not trying to
    > win, it's good enough for all of them.


    Don't worry about it. In the other games today, you had:

    * the umps refuse to pay the obvious game-winning free to Brisbane
    * the AFL instructing Police (no shit) to remove a banner that said "The
    AFL can take anything they want from us, but they can not take our
    passion!"
    * Carlton actually winning a game

    Now that's bringing the game into disrepute.

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    Ext User(David J Richardson) Guest

    Re: Tanks for the memories....

    In article <workitout-F95A23.00161401092013@news.iinet.net.au>,
    David J Richardson <workitout@davidj.richardson.name> wrote:

    > In article <pan.2013.08.31.07.28.16.114581@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.a u>,
    > David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > > IIRC Melbourne a couple of years ago were found guilty of basically
    > > not doing everything possible to win matches so they could gain an
    > > advantage from losing.
    > >
    > > Haven't Fremantle just done the same thing by basically throwing a
    > > match against a bottom of the ladder side that has had one of their
    > > worst seasons for years and had no expectation to be close to
    > > competitive against a top 4 side?
    > >
    > > The Fremantle selections for the St.Kilda match were obviously not
    > > intended to give them a competitive side, so since all of these
    > > selections were in Fremantle's control it was a deliberate decision
    > > to reduce their chances of winning. Who is going to be held
    > > responsible?
    > >
    > > If it's good enough for one club to be penalised for not trying to
    > > win, it's good enough for all of them.

    >
    > Don't worry about it. In the other games today, you had:
    >
    > * the umps refuse to pay the obvious game-winning free to Brisbane *
    > the AFL instructing Police (no shit) to remove a banner that said
    > "The AFL can take anything they want from us, but they can not take
    > our passion!" * Carlton actually winning a game
    >
    > Now that's bringing the game into disrepute.


    Oh yeah, and they allowed Carlton and Port to wear ridiculously similar
    jumpers, neither of which were the standard ones. Clowns.

    --
    David J Richardson -- workitout@davidj.richardson.name
    http://davidj.richardson.name/ - Dr Who articles/interviews/reviews
    http://www.boomerang.org.au/ - Boomerang Association of Australia

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    Ext User(Power Mad) Guest

    Re: Tanks for the memories....

    "David J Richardson" wrote...

    Oh yeah, and they allowed Carlton and Port to wear ridiculously similar
    jumpers, neither of which were the standard ones. Clowns.


    Shirley their light blue jumper would have been the sensible option for
    Carlton.


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    Ext User(Power Mad) Guest

    Re: Tanks for the memories....

    "David Clayton" wrote...

    IIRC Melbourne a couple of years ago were found guilty of basically not
    doing everything possible to win matches so they could gain an advantage
    from losing.

    Haven't Fremantle just done the same thing by basically throwing a match
    against a bottom of the ladder side that has had one of their worst
    seasons for years and had no expectation to be close to competitive
    against a top 4 side?

    The Fremantle selections for the St.Kilda match were obviously not
    intended to give them a competitive side, so since all of these selections
    were in Fremantle's control it was a deliberate decision to reduce their
    chances of winning. Who is going to be held responsible?

    If it's good enough for one club to be penalised for not trying to win,
    it's good enough for all of them.

    It's a bit different to Melbourne's situation - Freo didn't have anything to
    gain from not winning. They certainly didn't give themselves the best
    chance of winning, so maybe having to play their qualifying final down at
    Kardinya Park is some form of punishment. All the more reason to rest up
    their players given the additional travelling they have to undertake!

    What surprised me last night was Richmond's decision NOT to tank against
    Essendon. Having seen the result of the Port-Carlton game earlier in the
    day, it would have made sense to lose their game so that they ended up
    playing Port next week, not Carlton. I guess Dimma, being the good Port
    Adelaide man that he is, has more honour than that.


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    Ext User(Wotawonderfulworld) Guest

    Re: Tanks for the memories....

    "Power Mad" <news@ten.com> wrote in
    news:ad6dnYdEd_4dOL_PnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@westnet.com. au:

    > "David Clayton" wrote...
    >
    > IIRC Melbourne a couple of years ago were found guilty of basically
    > not doing everything possible to win matches so they could gain an
    > advantage from losing.
    >
    > Haven't Fremantle just done the same thing by basically throwing a
    > match against a bottom of the ladder side that has had one of their
    > worst seasons for years and had no expectation to be close to
    > competitive against a top 4 side?
    >
    > The Fremantle selections for the St.Kilda match were obviously not
    > intended to give them a competitive side, so since all of these
    > selections were in Fremantle's control it was a deliberate decision to
    > reduce their chances of winning. Who is going to be held responsible?
    >
    > If it's good enough for one club to be penalised for not trying to
    > win, it's good enough for all of them.
    >
    > It's a bit different to Melbourne's situation - Freo didn't have
    > anything to gain from not winning. They certainly didn't give
    > themselves the best chance of winning, so maybe having to play their
    > qualifying final down at Kardinya Park is some form of punishment.
    > All the more reason to rest up their players given the additional
    > travelling they have to undertake!
    >
    > What surprised me last night was Richmond's decision NOT to tank
    > against Essendon. Having seen the result of the Port-Carlton game
    > earlier in the day, it would have made sense to lose their game so
    > that they ended up playing Port next week, not Carlton. I guess
    > Dimma, being the good Port Adelaide man that he is, has more honour
    > than that.
    >
    >


    Makes for a good game on Sunday though, Bring back memories from the old
    days of finals.

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    Ext User(David Clayton) Guest

    AFL stuff up Finals Week 1

    On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 03:56:23 +0000, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
    ........
    > Makes for a good game on Sunday though, Bring back memories from the old
    > days of finals.


    Fixturing Richmond and Carlton on Sunday is scandalous.

    The winner of that match will then play the loser of the FRIDAY night
    match, a clear benefit of two extra rest days to the Friday match sides.

    --
    Regards, David.

    David Clayton
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
    Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
    measure of how many questions you have.


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