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  1. #1
    Ext User(Jim) Guest

    Rudd's NBN

    How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year better off?



  2. #2
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    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    > How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year better off?


    By losing the election....


  3. #3
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    Jim <noreply@gmail.com> wrote

    > How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year better off?


    It wont, only a terminal ****wit like the fools that made
    that stupid claim would believe that mindlessly silly drivel.

  4. #4
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:46:34 +1000, "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote:

    >How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year better off?
    >

    My Great Grandfather sold electric stoves before WW1 making a fortune
    He was against power poles believing they would amount to nothing and
    looked ugly
    --
    Petzl
    http://tinyurl.com/HAT-MURDOCH-PROMISED-ABBOTT
    http://tinyurl.com/AbbottsPorkPies
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
    Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
    http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
    Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_...nzYD7dIbq8s04L
    Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAsnY1Pbj8&list
    In Australia Murdoch doing the same
    http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_...eGawgosSzi52MM
    Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
    "Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
    "Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041

  5. #5
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    > How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?


    Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN



    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?

    >
    > Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!


    It wasn’t actually Rudd, he monstered them into claiming that
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-0...er-nbn/4932976


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    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

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    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?

    >
    > Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!


    He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>

    How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.

    Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that the
    quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned Abbottards
    who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


  8. #8
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:l0bq0p$bk5$1@dont-email.me...
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l09bki$es$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >>> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?

    >>
    >> Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!

    >
    > He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    > <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>
    >
    > How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    > conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.


    That's called the "terminal retardedness". A serious infection that is
    contagious as well.
    Australian public has been unfortunate enough to contract the disease during
    Phony Abbot's campaign.

    >
    > Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    > conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that the
    > quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned
    > Abbottards who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.


    Yes, and you just coined a term that I've been dying to come up with for
    ages.
    Pretty ingenius, indeed. I'm happy to milk it from now on. :-)

    I believe we are yet to discover the real benefits and future applications
    of super fast broadband that may come to action once the FTTP becomes a
    reality.
    Lets hope all the Abbotards will be dead and burried by then, including the
    Phony Abbot himself.
    >
    > --
    > Bob Milutinovic
    > Cognicom
    >




  9. #9
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN



    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l0k323$34o$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:l0bq0p$bk5$1@dont-email.me...
    >> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:l09bki$es$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>> "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >>>> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?
    >>>
    >>> Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!

    >>
    >> He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    >> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>
    >>
    >> How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    >> conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.

    >
    > That's called the "terminal retardedness". A serious infection that is
    > contagious as well.
    > Australian public has been unfortunate enough to contract the disease
    > during Phony Abbot's campaign.
    >
    >>
    >> Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    >> conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that
    >> the quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned
    >> Abbottards who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.

    >
    > Yes, and you just coined a term that I've been dying to come up with for
    > ages.
    > Pretty ingenius, indeed. I'm happy to milk it from now on. :-)


    > I believe we are yet to discover the real benefits and future applications
    > of super fast broadband that may come to action once the FTTP becomes a
    > reality.


    How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    that.

    <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>



  10. #10
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l0k323$34o$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:l0bq0p$bk5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:l09bki$es$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >>>>> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?
    >>>>
    >>>> Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    >>> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>
    >>>
    >>> How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    >>> conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.

    >>
    >> That's called the "terminal retardedness". A serious infection that is
    >> contagious as well.
    >> Australian public has been unfortunate enough to contract the disease
    >> during Phony Abbot's campaign.
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    >>> conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that
    >>> the quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned
    >>> Abbottards who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.

    >>
    >> Yes, and you just coined a term that I've been dying to come up with for
    >> ages.
    >> Pretty ingenius, indeed. I'm happy to milk it from now on. :-)

    >
    >> I believe we are yet to discover the real benefits and future
    >> applications of super fast broadband that may come to action once the
    >> FTTP becomes a reality.

    >
    > How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    > that.


    Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly head.
    And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.

    You are only a usenetting old nutter with a need of 33K dialup and 500Mb a
    month.
    Unfortunately(or fortunately) we've moved on from that some 20 years ago.
    You are out-of-date Roddles.
    You are just a relic from ancient times.
    You don't need FTTP, we do understand.
    You are not the country, you are irrelevant, completely.
    I just hope we can invent a time machine to send you back to 1930's, so you
    can share a bed with all the abbotards like you.
    I promise, you'll be happy there.


    >
    > <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>
    >
    >




  11. #11
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

    >>
    >> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    >> that.

    >
    >Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly head.
    >And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >
    >You are only a usenetting old nutter with a need of 33K dialup and 500Mb a
    >month.
    >Unfortunately(or fortunately) we've moved on from that some 20 years ago.
    >You are out-of-date Roddles.
    >You are just a relic from ancient times.
    >You don't need FTTP, we do understand.
    >You are not the country, you are irrelevant, completely.
    >I just hope we can invent a time machine to send you back to 1930's, so you
    >can share a bed with all the abbotards like you.
    >I promise, you'll be happy there.


    New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing it with
    what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)
    what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive as it will only
    be a inferior SECOND network.
    Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done or finnish the task
    --
    Petzl
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

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    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN



    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    > <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>>
    >>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    >>> that.

    >>
    >>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly head.
    >>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.


    > New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    > it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)


    Wrong, as always.

    > what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive


    Wrong, as always.

    > as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.


    Wrong, as always.

    > Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done


    Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.

    > or finnish the task


    The coalition aint that stupid.


  13. #13
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN



    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l0lrha$1qc$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:b96oh4F77uhU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >>
    >> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:l0k323$34o$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>> "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:l0bq0p$bk5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l09bki$es$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >>>>>> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    >>>> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>
    >>>>
    >>>> How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    >>>> conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.
    >>>
    >>> That's called the "terminal retardedness". A serious infection that is
    >>> contagious as well.
    >>> Australian public has been unfortunate enough to contract the disease
    >>> during Phony Abbot's campaign.
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    >>>> conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that
    >>>> the quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned
    >>>> Abbottards who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.
    >>>
    >>> Yes, and you just coined a term that I've been dying to come up with for
    >>> ages.
    >>> Pretty ingenius, indeed. I'm happy to milk it from now on. :-)

    >>
    >>> I believe we are yet to discover the real benefits and future
    >>> applications of super fast broadband that may come to action once the
    >>> FTTP becomes a reality.

    >>
    >> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    >> that.


    <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>

    > And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.


    Wrong, as always.

    > Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    > S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.


    Nothing like your original juvenile silly shit.

    <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>



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    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l0lrha$1qc$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:b96oh4F77uhU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:l0k323$34o$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l0bq0p$bk5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:l09bki$es$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Jim" <noreply@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:5227e27c$0$2780$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
    >>>>>>> How will KRudd's NBN make me $3800 per year >better off?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Where did he make that claim?!!!!!!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> He didn't make that claim; an independent forecaster did -
    >>>>> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-04/report-shows-households-will-be-3800-better-off-under-nbn/4932976>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> How unusual for the bleating Abbottards to apportion complicity or
    >>>>> conspiracy to anything which doesn't agree with their point of view.
    >>>>
    >>>> That's called the "terminal retardedness". A serious infection that is
    >>>> contagious as well.
    >>>> Australian public has been unfortunate enough to contract the disease
    >>>> during Phony Abbot's campaign.
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Based on experience in the Netherlands, this is actually quite a
    >>>>> conservative estimate - but something to keep in mind is the fact that
    >>>>> the quoted amount is an average, some people (like the aforementioned
    >>>>> Abbottards who prefer to use snail mail) will see no benefit at all.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, and you just coined a term that I've been dying to come up with
    >>>> for ages.
    >>>> Pretty ingenius, indeed. I'm happy to milk it from now on. :-)
    >>>
    >>>> I believe we are yet to discover the real benefits and future
    >>>> applications of super fast broadband that may come to action once the
    >>>> FTTP becomes a reality.
    >>>
    >>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    >>> that.

    >
    > <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>
    >
    >> And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.

    >
    > Wrong, as always.
    >
    >> Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >> S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.

    >
    > Nothing like your original juvenile silly shit.
    >
    > <your juvenile shit flushed where it belongs>
    >


    Forgotten how to spell puerile Roddles????


  15. #15
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>
    >>>>
    >>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't done
    >>>> that.
    >>>
    >>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly head.
    >>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.

    >
    >> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)

    >
    >Wrong, as always.
    >

    Nope
    http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/

    >> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive

    >
    >Wrong, as always.
    >

    Not this time FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN with
    buggered Copper


    >> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.

    >
    >Wrong, as always.
    >


    Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then start rolling out FTTN
    is a competing network

    >> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done

    >
    >Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.
    >

    Stop it in a orderly manner. "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is
    only a last resort internet connection to areas that is too expensive
    for fibre

    >> or finnish the task

    >
    >The coalition aint that stupid.


    Nope they made a deal with Murdoch
    --
    Petzl
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

  16. #16
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:223t29dcsj328j8tk90j5nlq5n42cvubgg@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax.com ...
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >>>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't
    >>>>>> done
    >>>>>> that.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly
    >>>>>head.
    >>>>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >>>>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >>>
    >>>> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >>>> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)

    >
    >>> Wrong, as always.

    >
    >> Nope

    >
    >Yep. The sheep shaggers never had anything
    >like what Turdbull is going for FTTN wise.
    >
    >> http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/

    >
    >Says nothing like your mindless silly shit about their previous
    >steaming turd being anything like Turdbull's FTTN.
    >
    >And their FTTP is nothing like our NBN, it only covers 75%, nothing like
    >ours.
    >
    >>>> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive

    >
    >>> Wrong, as always.

    >
    >> Not this time

    >
    >Yep, its cheaper than FTTP.
    >
    >> FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN

    >
    >Wrong, as always.
    >
    >> with buggered Copper

    >
    >Wrong, as always. The copper is fine.
    >
    >>>> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.

    >
    >>> Wrong, as always.

    >
    >> Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then
    >> start rolling out FTTN is a competing network

    >
    >Wrong, as always.
    >
    >>>> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done

    >
    >>>Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.

    >
    >> Stop it in a orderly manner.

    >
    >That's what Turdbull is doing.
    >
    >> "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is only a last resort internet
    >> connection to areas that is too expensive for fibre

    >
    >Wrong, as always. Its nothing like that with the wireless stuff.
    >
    >>>> or finnish the task

    >
    >>> The coalition aint that stupid.

    >
    >> Nope they made a deal with Murdoch

    >
    >Just another bare faced lie.
    >
    >If they had done they would have gone for their original
    >scheme of pulling the plug on the NBN and flogging it
    >off with no FTTN which is just as big a problem for that
    >arsehole Murdoch as FTTP.


    Again New Zealand has had FTTN for only a few years and a Nation no
    longer than distance of Wollongong to Newcastle and a population less
    than half Sydneys is putting $1.5 billion to UPGRADE to FTTP
    They are finding FTTN useless and don't cut it
    http://www.itwire.com/business-it-ne...r-fttp-players
    --
    Petzl
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

    FTTN, while an incremental improvement on what we have now,
    is a short-sighted waste of time and money that will still
    leave Australia lagging behind the rest of the developed World,
    squandering billions of dollars on obsolete technology in the process.

  17. #17
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vo9239tbdsv87ptdh6ch97rd9ge86iccrb@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>news:223t29dcsj328j8tk90j5nlq5n42cvubgg@4ax.com. ..
    >>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax.co m...
    >>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >>>>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't
    >>>>>>> done
    >>>>>>> that.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly
    >>>>>>head.
    >>>>>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>>>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >>>>>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >>>>
    >>>>> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >>>>> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)

    >>
    >>>> Wrong, as always.

    >>
    >>> Nope

    >>
    >>Yep. The sheep shaggers never had anything
    >>like what Turdbull is going for FTTN wise.
    >>
    >>> http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/

    >>
    >>Says nothing like your mindless silly shit about their previous
    >>steaming turd being anything like Turdbull's FTTN.
    >>
    >>And their FTTP is nothing like our NBN, it only covers 75%, nothing like
    >>ours.
    >>
    >>>>> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive

    >>
    >>>> Wrong, as always.

    >>
    >>> Not this time

    >>
    >>Yep, its cheaper than FTTP.
    >>
    >>> FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN

    >>
    >>Wrong, as always.
    >>
    >>> with buggered Copper

    >>
    >>Wrong, as always. The copper is fine.
    >>
    >>>>> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.

    >>
    >>>> Wrong, as always.

    >>
    >>> Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then
    >>> start rolling out FTTN is a competing network

    >>
    >>Wrong, as always.
    >>
    >>>>> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done

    >>
    >>>>Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.

    >>
    >>> Stop it in a orderly manner.

    >>
    >>That's what Turdbull is doing.
    >>
    >>> "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is only a last resort internet
    >>> connection to areas that is too expensive for fibre

    >>
    >>Wrong, as always. Its nothing like that with the wireless stuff.
    >>
    >>>>> or finnish the task

    >>
    >>>> The coalition aint that stupid.

    >>
    >>> Nope they made a deal with Murdoch

    >>
    >>Just another bare faced lie.
    >>
    >>If they had done they would have gone for their original
    >>scheme of pulling the plug on the NBN and flogging it
    >>off with no FTTN which is just as big a problem for that
    >>arsehole Murdoch as FTTP.

    >
    > Again New Zealand has had FTTN for only a few years and a Nation no
    > longer than distance of Wollongong to Newcastle and a population less
    > than half Sydneys is putting $1.5 billion to UPGRADE to FTTP
    > They are finding FTTN useless and don't cut it
    > http://www.itwire.com/business-it-ne...r-fttp-players
    > --
    > Petzl


    Twisted and salty you can drop the propaganda now. Just to inform you the
    election is over and you lost.


  18. #18
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:41:58 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:vo9239tbdsv87ptdh6ch97rd9ge86iccrb@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:223t29dcsj328j8tk90j5nlq5n42cvubgg@4ax.com ...
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax.c om...
    >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >>>>>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't
    >>>>>>>> done
    >>>>>>>> that.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly
    >>>>>>>head.
    >>>>>>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>>>>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet speed(Japan,
    >>>>>>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >>>>>> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)
    >>>
    >>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>
    >>>> Nope
    >>>
    >>>Yep. The sheep shaggers never had anything
    >>>like what Turdbull is going for FTTN wise.
    >>>
    >>>> http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/
    >>>
    >>>Says nothing like your mindless silly shit about their previous
    >>>steaming turd being anything like Turdbull's FTTN.
    >>>
    >>>And their FTTP is nothing like our NBN, it only covers 75%, nothing like
    >>>ours.
    >>>
    >>>>>> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive
    >>>
    >>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>
    >>>> Not this time
    >>>
    >>>Yep, its cheaper than FTTP.
    >>>
    >>>> FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN
    >>>
    >>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>
    >>>> with buggered Copper
    >>>
    >>>Wrong, as always. The copper is fine.
    >>>
    >>>>>> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.
    >>>
    >>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>
    >>>> Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then
    >>>> start rolling out FTTN is a competing network
    >>>
    >>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>
    >>>>>> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done
    >>>
    >>>>>Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.
    >>>
    >>>> Stop it in a orderly manner.
    >>>
    >>>That's what Turdbull is doing.
    >>>
    >>>> "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is only a last resort internet
    >>>> connection to areas that is too expensive for fibre
    >>>
    >>>Wrong, as always. Its nothing like that with the wireless stuff.
    >>>
    >>>>>> or finnish the task
    >>>
    >>>>> The coalition aint that stupid.
    >>>
    >>>> Nope they made a deal with Murdoch
    >>>
    >>>Just another bare faced lie.
    >>>
    >>>If they had done they would have gone for their original
    >>>scheme of pulling the plug on the NBN and flogging it
    >>>off with no FTTN which is just as big a problem for that
    >>>arsehole Murdoch as FTTP.

    >>
    >> Again New Zealand has had FTTN for only a few years and a Nation no
    >> longer than distance of Wollongong to Newcastle and a population less
    >> than half Sydneys is putting $1.5 billion to UPGRADE to FTTP
    >> They are finding FTTN useless and don't cut it
    >> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-ne...r-fttp-players
    >> --
    >> Petzl

    >
    >Twisted and salty you can drop the propaganda now. Just to inform you the
    >election is over and you lost.


    Not propaganda
    Voting wise I put Greens Labor and Coalition last
    I never vote 1 above the line (it's a corrupt scam)

    So have no agenda other than what is true

    You don't want FTTN completed after eight years of tax payers putting
    it in?

    You think a second competing network FTTN now makes sense?

    Might of eight years ago!

    Even stopping any further completion of the NBN is better than now
    putting in FTTN. The Liberal member in our area Macarthur has assured
    us we would still get it?

    Personally don't want it in my street particularly the 2 metre high
    "salvo bin" stuck in "every street"! Not many people in my street even
    have a Telstra phone (I belive 3 out of the 30 homes do at present)

    I will just join the masses, presently 70% of Australia and growing to
    totally drop copper wire connections to the home its crap anyhow

    Mobile Data is getting cheaper and better. But no where as it should
    be with an NBN
    --
    Petzl
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

    FTTN, while an incremental improvement on what we have now,
    is a short-sighted waste of time and money that will still
    leave Australia lagging behind the rest of the developed World,
    squandering billions of dollars on obsolete technology in the process.

  19. #19
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5dh2391giscgjgvhk6mpnlg1u8ablrdm23@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:41:58 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>news:vo9239tbdsv87ptdh6ch97rd9ge86iccrb@4ax.com. ..
    >>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:223t29dcsj328j8tk90j5nlq5n42cvubgg@4ax.co m...
    >>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax. com...
    >>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >>>>>>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't
    >>>>>>>>> done
    >>>>>>>>> that.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly
    >>>>>>>>head.
    >>>>>>>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>>>>>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet
    >>>>>>>>speed(Japan,
    >>>>>>>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >>>>>>> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Nope
    >>>>
    >>>>Yep. The sheep shaggers never had anything
    >>>>like what Turdbull is going for FTTN wise.
    >>>>
    >>>>> http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/
    >>>>
    >>>>Says nothing like your mindless silly shit about their previous
    >>>>steaming turd being anything like Turdbull's FTTN.
    >>>>
    >>>>And their FTTP is nothing like our NBN, it only covers 75%, nothing like
    >>>>ours.
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Not this time
    >>>>
    >>>>Yep, its cheaper than FTTP.
    >>>>
    >>>>> FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>>
    >>>>> with buggered Copper
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong, as always. The copper is fine.
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then
    >>>>> start rolling out FTTN is a competing network
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done
    >>>>
    >>>>>>Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Stop it in a orderly manner.
    >>>>
    >>>>That's what Turdbull is doing.
    >>>>
    >>>>> "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is only a last resort internet
    >>>>> connection to areas that is too expensive for fibre
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong, as always. Its nothing like that with the wireless stuff.
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> or finnish the task
    >>>>
    >>>>>> The coalition aint that stupid.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Nope they made a deal with Murdoch
    >>>>
    >>>>Just another bare faced lie.
    >>>>
    >>>>If they had done they would have gone for their original
    >>>>scheme of pulling the plug on the NBN and flogging it
    >>>>off with no FTTN which is just as big a problem for that
    >>>>arsehole Murdoch as FTTP.
    >>>
    >>> Again New Zealand has had FTTN for only a few years and a Nation no
    >>> longer than distance of Wollongong to Newcastle and a population less
    >>> than half Sydneys is putting $1.5 billion to UPGRADE to FTTP
    >>> They are finding FTTN useless and don't cut it
    >>> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-ne...r-fttp-players
    >>> --
    >>> Petzl

    >>
    >>Twisted and salty you can drop the propaganda now. Just to inform you the
    >>election is over and you lost.

    >
    > Not propaganda
    > Voting wise I put Greens Labor and Coalition last
    > I never vote 1 above the line (it's a corrupt scam)


    Close but no cigar. The snots (greens) last ALP next to them. Glen Lazarus
    1st then LNP then a mish mash to end up with 1-82, I forgot to put the sex
    party high on my ballot paper because of their position on it. Stop the
    Greens did feature highly though... Have a good day. I love voting for the
    senate.


    >
    > So have no agenda other than what is true
    >
    > You don't want FTTN completed after eight years of tax payers putting
    > it in?
    >
    > You think a second competing network FTTN now makes sense?
    >
    > Might of eight years ago!
    >
    > Even stopping any further completion of the NBN is better than now
    > putting in FTTN. The Liberal member in our area Macarthur has assured
    > us we would still get it?
    >
    > Personally don't want it in my street particularly the 2 metre high
    > "salvo bin" stuck in "every street"! Not many people in my street even
    > have a Telstra phone (I belive 3 out of the 30 homes do at present)
    >
    > I will just join the masses, presently 70% of Australia and growing to
    > totally drop copper wire connections to the home its crap anyhow
    >
    > Mobile Data is getting cheaper and better. But no where as it should
    > be with an NBN
    > --
    > Petzl
    > Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    > A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to
    > his pay TV interests.
    >
    > FTTN, while an incremental improvement on what we have now,
    > is a short-sighted waste of time and money that will still
    > leave Australia lagging behind the rest of the developed World,
    > squandering billions of dollars on obsolete technology in the process.



  20. #20
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Rudd's NBN

    On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:32:59 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:5dh2391giscgjgvhk6mpnlg1u8ablrdm23@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:41:58 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:vo9239tbdsv87ptdh6ch97rd9ge86iccrb@4ax.com ...
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:53:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:223t29dcsj328j8tk90j5nlq5n42cvubgg@4ax.c om...
    >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>news:3vts29949iotjfc0me0keq6a20mo8k5kp9@4ax .com...
    >>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:09:13 +1000, "Damian"
    >>>>>>>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> How odd that those who have had FTTP for YEARS now already haven't
    >>>>>>>>>> done
    >>>>>>>>>> that.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Get a list of countries with FTTP and see how they are doing, silly
    >>>>>>>>>head.
    >>>>>>>>>And no country have had FTTP for "YEARS", not quite there yet.
    >>>>>>>>>Go and read, how well the countries with highest internet
    >>>>>>>>>speed(Japan,
    >>>>>>>>>S.Korea, Hong Kong) are doing.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> New Zealand after putting in what "we" call FTTN is replacing
    >>>>>>>> it with what "we" call FTTP only after a few years (5)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Yep. The sheep shaggers never had anything
    >>>>>like what Turdbull is going for FTTN wise.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> http://billbennett.co.nz/2013/02/25/...ow-to-do-fttp/
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Says nothing like your mindless silly shit about their previous
    >>>>>steaming turd being anything like Turdbull's FTTN.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>And their FTTP is nothing like our NBN, it only covers 75%, nothing like
    >>>>>ours.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>> what "we" call FTTN will be profanely more expensive
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Not this time
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Yep, its cheaper than FTTP.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> FTTN will be a "tack on" to the existing NBN
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> with buggered Copper
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Wrong, as always. The copper is fine.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>> as it will only be a inferior SECOND network.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Rubbish to complete existing contracts and then
    >>>>>> start rolling out FTTN is a competing network
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Wrong, as always.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Cost wise it's best to stop what's being done
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>Wrong, as always with the wireless stuff and satellite stuff.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Stop it in a orderly manner.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>That's what Turdbull is doing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "wireless stuff and satellite stuff" is only a last resort internet
    >>>>>> connection to areas that is too expensive for fibre
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Wrong, as always. Its nothing like that with the wireless stuff.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>> or finnish the task
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> The coalition aint that stupid.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope they made a deal with Murdoch
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Just another bare faced lie.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>If they had done they would have gone for their original
    >>>>>scheme of pulling the plug on the NBN and flogging it
    >>>>>off with no FTTN which is just as big a problem for that
    >>>>>arsehole Murdoch as FTTP.
    >>>>
    >>>> Again New Zealand has had FTTN for only a few years and a Nation no
    >>>> longer than distance of Wollongong to Newcastle and a population less
    >>>> than half Sydneys is putting $1.5 billion to UPGRADE to FTTP
    >>>> They are finding FTTN useless and don't cut it
    >>>> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-ne...r-fttp-players
    >>>> --
    >>>> Petzl
    >>>
    >>>Twisted and salty you can drop the propaganda now. Just to inform you the
    >>>election is over and you lost.

    >>
    >> Not propaganda
    >> Voting wise I put Greens Labor and Coalition last
    >> I never vote 1 above the line (it's a corrupt scam)

    >
    >Close but no cigar. The snots (greens) last ALP next to them. Glen Lazarus
    >1st then LNP then a mish mash to end up with 1-82, I forgot to put the sex
    >party high on my ballot paper because of their position on it. Stop the
    >Greens did feature highly though... Have a good day. I love voting for the
    >senate.
    >

    Clive Palmer (Matt Adamson, NSW Senate) Was high on my list my votes
    and would funnel down to him

    Your voting seems good to me

    Still nothing to do with decent world class high speed internet

    >> So have no agenda other than what is true
    >>
    >> You don't want FTTN completed after eight years of tax payers putting
    >> it in?
    >>
    >> You think a second competing network FTTN now makes sense?
    >>
    >> Might of eight years ago!
    >>
    >> Even stopping any further completion of the NBN is better than now
    >> putting in FTTN. The Liberal member in our area Macarthur has assured
    >> us we would still get it?
    >>
    >> Personally don't want it in my street particularly the 2 metre high
    >> "salvo bin" stuck in "every street"! Not many people in my street even
    >> have a Telstra phone (I belive 3 out of the 30 homes do at present)
    >>
    >> I will just join the masses, presently 70% of Australia and growing to
    >> totally drop copper wire connections to the home its crap anyhow
    >>
    >> Mobile Data is getting cheaper and better. But no where as it should
    >> be with an NBN

    --
    Petzl
    Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
    A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.

    FTTN, while an incremental improvement on what we have now,
    is a short-sighted waste of time and money that will still
    leave Australia lagging behind the rest of the developed World,
    squandering billions of dollars on obsolete technology in the process.

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