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  1. #61
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses

    On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:09:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >
    >>>> Corn Maize etc

    >
    >>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.

    >
    >>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.

    >
    >> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need
    >> to paint pebbles the same (red) color and scatter around.
    >> This deters birds from your REAL STRAWBERRIES)

    >
    >Lot of work.
    >

    Might be red marbles or something else will
    The "dollar" shops still sell red spray paint though

    >I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers
    >and wire to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >had gone, it was too late.
    >
    >I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato
    >seedlings have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father
    >Toms and another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved
    >that were only about 10cm high basically to see if it makes
    >any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has
    >produced a single small marble sized tomato.
    >
    >There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and
    >I have left it much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >I may let them go till next year again.
    >
    >Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >
    >Never had any luck with the Icebergs which
    >are what I buy when I don't have any of mine.
    >They never do much and never get to anything
    >like what I buy.
    >
    >
    >Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one
    >batch of Lime and Lemon using the very expensive
    >limes from woolys put thru the self checkout as
    >lemons. Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade.
    >And then did another with normal lemons from
    >a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars.
    >Again very decent and much better than any of
    >the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.
    >
    >Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the
    >limes are back in season again. That would
    >fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >marmalade that both arent in season here
    >at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a
    >2:1 ratio anyway, twice as much lime as lemon.
    >
    >
    >Did attempt to use the stirrer because the
    >initial heating of the pulp and water before
    >you put the sugar in is quite runny, but
    >discovered that the ****ing thing doesn't
    >even work at all, no action when you turn it on.
    >I should have tried it when it first arrived just
    >to check it worked. I have sent the seller an
    >email but got an automated response that
    >he was off on holiday for some chinese
    >holiday, and didn't get any response when
    >he had got back.
    >
    >You can open it so if he doesn't respond
    >to the second email I will open it and see
    >what the problem is. Cant be much, it
    >appears to just be a single switch to an
    >ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >does have an ic because you press the
    >button multiple times for different speeds.
    >
    >Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >
    >Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and
    >there was no burning at all this time with only
    >occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >
    >Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches.
    >****ing expensive at $70ish tho it would be
    >worth it I guess for the much lower effort
    >with stirring and not needing any fancy
    >stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an
    >electric hotplate to heat the thin stockpot.
    >
    >
    >Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >fine without any added pectin at all.


    My Grandma had similar problem as you after they made Asbestos heating
    pads, which sat under pot. Maybe nowadays they have something else

    I too find mainland China sell mainly broken crap. Hong Kong and
    Taiwan seem much better
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  2. #62
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbmumnF3bs9U1@mid.individual.net...
    > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >
    >>>> Corn Maize etc

    >
    >>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.

    >
    >>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.

    >
    >> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need to paint pebbles
    >> the same (red) color and scatter around. This deters birds from your REAL
    >> STRAWBERRIES)

    >
    > Lot of work.
    > I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    > it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers and wire
    > to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    > had gone, it was too late.
    > I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato seedlings have
    > doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    > individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father Toms and
    > another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved that were only about 10cm
    > high basically to see if it makes
    > any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    > when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has produced a single small
    > marble sized tomato.
    > There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and I have left it much
    > too late to get rid of the weeds so
    > I may let them go till next year again.
    >
    > Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    > lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    > the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    > Never had any luck with the Icebergs which are what I buy when I don't
    > have any of mine. They never do much and never get to anything
    > like what I buy.


    That 'cos the ones we buy from supermarkets are well doused with chemicals
    and pesticides,
    unless you buy organic.
    Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc. They are nothing like the
    supermarket ones.
    Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health and
    avoiding cancer.
    Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    viable.
    I eat, celery on regular basis, and I looked at the organic ones the other
    day at the supermarket.
    They are four times the price, and one third the size of regular ones.
    Skinny and duller than the normal ones.
    I started growing the bastards, but may take forever.

    >
    >
    > Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one batch of Lime and Lemon
    > using the very expensive
    > limes from woolys put thru the self checkout as
    > lemons.


    That's the way to go. Screw them. :-))

    >Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    > with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    > lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    > very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    > which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade. And then did another with
    > normal lemons from
    > a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars. Again very decent and
    > much better than any of
    > the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    > to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    > since the database claimed that the box of limes
    > produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    > bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.


    That's all good work. But, why do you need that much marmalade?
    Sounds like you eat it everyday?
    Won't you get sick of it when you eat it regularly?
    Anyway, you might wanna read this.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...edication.html


    >
    > Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the limes are back in season again.
    > That would fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    > marmalade that both arent in season here
    > at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    > cant get a carton of each at the best price
    > of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a 2:1 ratio anyway, twice as
    > much lime as lemon.
    >
    > Did attempt to use the stirrer because the initial heating of the pulp and
    > water before
    > you put the sugar in is quite runny, but discovered that the ****ing thing
    > doesn't
    > even work at all, no action when you turn it on. I should have tried it
    > when it first arrived just
    > to check it worked. I have sent the seller an email but got an automated
    > response that
    > he was off on holiday for some chinese holiday, and didn't get any
    > response when
    > he had got back.


    Well, I warned you about buying Chinese cooking machines, didn't I?! ;-)
    Go for, Japanese or German made ones.

    >
    > You can open it so if he doesn't respond to the second email I will open
    > it and see
    > what the problem is. Cant be much, it appears to just be a single switch
    > to an
    > ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    > does have an ic because you press the
    > button multiple times for different speeds.
    > Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    > its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    > Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    > to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and there was no burning at all
    > this time with only
    > occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    > Still tossing up whether to get another very
    > heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches. ****ing expensive at
    > $70ish tho it would be


    You can source them lot cheaper from Asian and Indian grocery/variety
    stores.
    Dunno whether you got any where you live, I reckon, it's a tough call.

    > worth it I guess for the much lower effort with stirring and not needing
    > any fancy stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an electric hotplate to
    > heat the thin stockpot.
    >
    > Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    > the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    > fine without any added pectin at all.




  3. #63
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses



    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:94jc59hpa0s9o9ja48qcjvkf1oaugc778d@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:09:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >>
    >>>>> Corn Maize etc

    >>
    >>>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.

    >>
    >>>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.

    >>
    >>> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need
    >>> to paint pebbles the same (red) color and scatter around.
    >>> This deters birds from your REAL STRAWBERRIES)

    >>
    >>Lot of work.
    >>

    > Might be red marbles or something else will
    > The "dollar" shops still sell red spray paint though
    >
    >>I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >>it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers
    >>and wire to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >>had gone, it was too late.
    >>
    >>I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato
    >>seedlings have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >>individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father
    >>Toms and another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved
    >>that were only about 10cm high basically to see if it makes
    >>any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >>when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has
    >>produced a single small marble sized tomato.
    >>
    >>There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and
    >>I have left it much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >>I may let them go till next year again.
    >>
    >>Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >>lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >>the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >>
    >>Never had any luck with the Icebergs which
    >>are what I buy when I don't have any of mine.
    >>They never do much and never get to anything
    >>like what I buy.
    >>
    >>
    >>Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one
    >>batch of Lime and Lemon using the very expensive
    >>limes from woolys put thru the self checkout as
    >>lemons. Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >>with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >>lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >>very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >>which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade.
    >>And then did another with normal lemons from
    >>a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars.
    >>Again very decent and much better than any of
    >>the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >>to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >>since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >>produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >>bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.
    >>
    >>Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the
    >>limes are back in season again. That would
    >>fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >>marmalade that both arent in season here
    >>at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >>cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >>of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a
    >>2:1 ratio anyway, twice as much lime as lemon.
    >>
    >>
    >>Did attempt to use the stirrer because the
    >>initial heating of the pulp and water before
    >>you put the sugar in is quite runny, but
    >>discovered that the ****ing thing doesn't
    >>even work at all, no action when you turn it on.
    >>I should have tried it when it first arrived just
    >>to check it worked. I have sent the seller an
    >>email but got an automated response that
    >>he was off on holiday for some chinese
    >>holiday, and didn't get any response when
    >>he had got back.
    >>
    >>You can open it so if he doesn't respond
    >>to the second email I will open it and see
    >>what the problem is. Cant be much, it
    >>appears to just be a single switch to an
    >>ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >>does have an ic because you press the
    >>button multiple times for different speeds.
    >>
    >>Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >>its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >>
    >>Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >>to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and
    >>there was no burning at all this time with only
    >>occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >>
    >>Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >>heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches.
    >>****ing expensive at $70ish tho it would be
    >>worth it I guess for the much lower effort
    >>with stirring and not needing any fancy
    >>stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an
    >>electric hotplate to heat the thin stockpot.
    >>
    >>
    >>Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>fine without any added pectin at all.


    > My Grandma had similar problem as you after they
    > made Asbestos heating pads, which sat under pot.


    That was for gas stoves. Mine is a glass top electric system.

    > Maybe nowadays they have something else


    Yeah, they do, those stockpots with a very thick composite
    copper or aluminium base encased in stainless steel.

    The stockpot has to be stainless steel for marmalade,
    you cant use aluminium stockpots.

    > I too find mainland China sell mainly broken crap.
    > Hong Kong and Taiwan seem much better


    This one is actually HK. Only the second dud I have had.

    Just noticed that they have gone from 100% positive feedback
    when I bought it to now with lots of negative feedback.

    Looks like I have done my dough if it isnt something
    obvious when I open it up after I get no response in
    another week. Just sent a nastygram.


  4. #64
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses



    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l35oog$8jh$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bbmumnF3bs9U1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >>
    >>>>> Corn Maize etc

    >>
    >>>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.

    >>
    >>>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.

    >>
    >>> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need to paint pebbles
    >>> the same (red) color and scatter around. This deters birds from your
    >>> REAL STRAWBERRIES)

    >>
    >> Lot of work.
    >> I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >> it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers and wire
    >> to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >> had gone, it was too late.
    >> I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato seedlings
    >> have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >> individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father Toms and
    >> another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved that were only about 10cm
    >> high basically to see if it makes
    >> any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >> when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has produced a single
    >> small marble sized tomato.
    >> There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and I have left it
    >> much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >> I may let them go till next year again.
    >>
    >> Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >> lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >> the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >> Never had any luck with the Icebergs which are what I buy when I don't
    >> have any of mine. They never do much and never get to anything
    >> like what I buy.

    >
    > That 'cos the ones we buy from supermarkets are well doused with chemicals
    > and pesticides, unless you buy organic.


    Nope, thatís not true of lettuces and the Cos and Mignonettes of
    mine do fine, its only the Icebergs and similar heart lettuces that donít.

    > Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.


    No thanks, I get them from people I know.

    > They are nothing like the supermarket ones.


    Yeah, much worse.

    > Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health


    Nope.

    > and avoiding cancer.


    Bullshit.

    > Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    > viable.


    It is when you get them from your own trees.

    > I eat, celery on regular basis,


    I haven't bothered since I was a kid.

    and I looked at the organic ones the other
    > day at the supermarket.
    > They are four times the price, and one third the size of regular ones.
    > Skinny and duller than the normal ones.
    > I started growing the bastards, but may take forever.


    >> Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one batch of Lime and Lemon
    >> using the very expensive limes from woolys put thru the self checkout as
    >> lemons.


    > That's the way to go. Screw them. :-))


    I'm an owner too.

    >>Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >> with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >> lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >> very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >> which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade. And then did another with
    >> normal lemons from
    >> a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars. Again very decent and
    >> much better than any of
    >> the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >> to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >> since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >> produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >> bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.


    > That's all good work. But, why do you need that much marmalade?
    > Sounds like you eat it everyday?


    Yeah, ****ing great slab of by own multigrain bread,
    as thick as will still fit in the toaster bought for the
    thickest slices toaster I could find, every day. Thatís
    all I have for breakfast, just that ****ing great slab
    of toast and marmalade.

    > Won't you get sick of it when you eat it regularly?


    Nope.

    > Anyway, you might wanna read this.
    > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...edication.html


    Yeah, saw that from the ABC radio Health Report.

    When I asked the specialist about it he just said that I
    shouldnít be still on the clopidogrel and we stopped that.

    >> Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the limes are back in season
    >> again. That would fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >> marmalade that both arent in season here
    >> at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >> cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >> of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a 2:1 ratio anyway, twice as
    >> much lime as lemon.
    >>
    >> Did attempt to use the stirrer because the initial heating of the pulp
    >> and water before
    >> you put the sugar in is quite runny, but discovered that the ****ing
    >> thing doesn't
    >> even work at all, no action when you turn it on. I should have tried it
    >> when it first arrived just
    >> to check it worked. I have sent the seller an email but got an automated
    >> response that
    >> he was off on holiday for some chinese holiday, and didn't get any
    >> response when
    >> he had got back.


    > Well, I warned you about buying Chinese cooking machines, didn't I?! ;-)


    It isnt a cooking machine, itís a stirrer.

    > Go for, Japanese or German made ones.


    There arent any of those with that sort of stirrer.

    >> You can open it so if he doesn't respond to the second email I will open
    >> it and see
    >> what the problem is. Cant be much, it appears to just be a single switch
    >> to an
    >> ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >> does have an ic because you press the
    >> button multiple times for different speeds.
    >> Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >> its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >> Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >> to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and there was no burning at all
    >> this time with only
    >> occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >> Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >> heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches. ****ing expensive at
    >> $70ish tho it would be


    > You can source them lot cheaper from Asian and Indian grocery/variety
    > stores.


    Not with those very heavy composite bases in that size.
    Those are commercial appliances.

    > Dunno whether you got any where you live, I reckon, it's a tough call.


    There are plenty of them here, lots of illegals fruit pickers.

    Singh is actually the most common surname here.

    >> worth it I guess for the much lower effort with stirring and not needing
    >> any fancy stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an electric hotplate to
    >> heat the thin stockpot.
    >>
    >> Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >> the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >> fine without any added pectin at all.

    >
    >


  5. #65
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses

    On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:15:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >>>Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>>the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>>fine without any added pectin at all.

    >
    >> My Grandma had similar problem as you after they
    >> made Asbestos heating pads, which sat under pot.

    >
    >That was for gas stoves. Mine is a glass top electric system.
    >

    Grandma used electric for jam, sauce
    Her other stove was a wood burner
    The hardware did sell a non-asbestos "under" pad for pots (50 years
    ago)

    >> Maybe nowadays they have something else

    >
    >Yeah, they do, those stockpots with a very thick composite
    >copper or aluminium base encased in stainless steel.
    >

    Her pot was not aluminum but probably steel (not stainless maybe cast
    iron)

    >The stockpot has to be stainless steel for marmalade,
    >you cant use aluminium stockpots.
    >

    Aldi sell Stainless pots but can't remember size (just looked 4.7L)

    >> I too find mainland China sell mainly broken crap.
    >> Hong Kong and Taiwan seem much better

    >
    >This one is actually HK. Only the second dud I have had.
    >
    >Just noticed that they have gone from 100% positive feedback
    >when I bought it to now with lots of negative feedback.
    >
    >Looks like I have done my dough if it isnt something
    >obvious when I open it up after I get no response in
    >another week. Just sent a nastygram.


    Not sounding good
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  6. #66
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote


    >>>> Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>>> the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>>> fine without any added pectin at all.


    >>> My Grandma had similar problem as you after they
    >>> made Asbestos heating pads, which sat under pot.


    >> That was for gas stoves. Mine is a glass top electric system.


    > Grandma used electric for jam, sauce


    Then she was completely off with the fairys,
    those pads are for gas stoves, not electric stoves.

    > Her other stove was a wood burner
    > The hardware did sell a non-asbestos
    > "under" pad for pots (50 years ago)


    Sure, but they are for gas stoves, not electric stoves.

    >>> Maybe nowadays they have something else


    >> Yeah, they do, those stockpots with a very thick composite
    >> copper or aluminium base encased in stainless steel.


    > Her pot was not aluminum but probably steel (not stainless maybe cast
    > iron)


    >> The stockpot has to be stainless steel for marmalade,
    >> you cant use aluminium stockpots.


    > Aldi sell Stainless pots but can't remember size (just looked 4.7L)


    Yeah, they have sold stockpots but not as big as that
    that I have ever noticed. If they do I will see them, I
    check their special buys every week online.

    >>> I too find mainland China sell mainly broken crap.
    >>> Hong Kong and Taiwan seem much better


    >> This one is actually HK. Only the second dud I have had.


    And the first was that pair of nail clippers for just
    1c whose jaws didn't close parallel who sent me
    another when I complained about the problem.

    >> Just noticed that they have gone from 100% positive feedback
    >> when I bought it to now with lots of negative feedback.


    >> Looks like I have done my dough if it isnt something
    >> obvious when I open it up after I get no response in
    >> another week. Just sent a nastygram.


    > Not sounding good


    Yeah, tho there is a fair chance its just wire that has come off or
    never was soldered on in the first place rather than a dead ic.
    Its got 4 screws to get that part open and I haven't tried that
    yet in case he wants the old one back at his cost for a refund.


  7. #67
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbodr2F1mpnU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    >
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l35oog$8jh$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:bbmumnF3bs9U1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>
    >>>>>> Corn Maize etc
    >>>
    >>>>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>>>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.
    >>>
    >>>>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.
    >>>
    >>>> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need to paint pebbles
    >>>> the same (red) color and scatter around. This deters birds from your
    >>>> REAL STRAWBERRIES)
    >>>
    >>> Lot of work.
    >>> I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >>> it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers and wire
    >>> to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >>> had gone, it was too late.
    >>> I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato seedlings
    >>> have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >>> individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father Toms and
    >>> another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved that were only about 10cm
    >>> high basically to see if it makes
    >>> any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >>> when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has produced a single
    >>> small marble sized tomato.
    >>> There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and I have left it
    >>> much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >>> I may let them go till next year again.
    >>>
    >>> Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >>> lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >>> the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >>> Never had any luck with the Icebergs which are what I buy when I don't
    >>> have any of mine. They never do much and never get to anything
    >>> like what I buy.

    >>
    >> That 'cos the ones we buy from supermarkets are well doused with
    >> chemicals and pesticides, unless you buy organic.

    >
    > Nope, thatís not true of lettuces and the Cos and Mignonettes of
    > mine do fine, its only the Icebergs and similar heart lettuces that donít.
    >
    >> Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.

    >
    > No thanks, I get them from people I know.
    >
    >> They are nothing like the supermarket ones.

    >
    > Yeah, much worse.
    >
    >> Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health

    >
    > Nope.
    >
    >> and avoiding cancer.

    >
    > Bullshit.


    I believe, the pesticides and other preservative chemicals can be one of the
    causes of cancer.

    >
    >> Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    >> viable.

    >
    > It is when you get them from your own trees.


    Not possible to grow all those things.

    >
    >> I eat, celery on regular basis,

    >
    > I haven't bothered since I was a kid.


    That would've been some 150 years ago, right?
    The time when Ben Hall used to rob your dad's mail coaches, right?

    >
    > and I looked at the organic ones the other
    >> day at the supermarket.
    >> They are four times the price, and one third the size of regular ones.
    >> Skinny and duller than the normal ones.
    >> I started growing the bastards, but may take forever.

    >
    >>> Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one batch of Lime and Lemon
    >>> using the very expensive limes from woolys put thru the self checkout as
    >>> lemons.

    >
    >> That's the way to go. Screw them. :-))

    >
    > I'm an owner too.


    Owner of what, lemons?!!

    >
    >>>Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >>> with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >>> lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >>> very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >>> which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade. And then did another
    >>> with normal lemons from
    >>> a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars. Again very decent and
    >>> much better than any of
    >>> the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >>> to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >>> since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >>> produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >>> bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.

    >
    >> That's all good work. But, why do you need that much marmalade?
    >> Sounds like you eat it everyday?

    >
    > Yeah, ****ing great slab of by own multigrain bread,
    > as thick as will still fit in the toaster bought for the
    > thickest slices toaster I could find, every day. Thatís
    > all I have for breakfast, just that ****ing great slab
    > of toast and marmalade.


    That's crazy. You must have built a one fat belly and a one fat butt.

    Multi-grain bread ain't bad, if you can stomach it, I avoid bread altogether
    for good, other than occasional treat.
    Gluten free bread is ok, but expensive.
    You see, I'm planning to live for around $150 years, around upto your age.
    But, you've done it with marmalade and toasted bread.
    Pretty amazing!

    >
    >> Won't you get sick of it when you eat it regularly?

    >
    > Nope.


    I'm already sick in the stomach of hearing you doing it.
    I better take a pill......

    >
    >> Anyway, you might wanna read this.
    >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...edication.html

    >
    > Yeah, saw that from the ABC radio Health Report.
    >
    > When I asked the specialist about it he just said that I
    > shouldnít be still on the clopidogrel and we stopped that.
    >
    >>> Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the limes are back in season
    >>> again. That would fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >>> marmalade that both arent in season here
    >>> at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >>> cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >>> of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a 2:1 ratio anyway, twice as
    >>> much lime as lemon.
    >>>
    >>> Did attempt to use the stirrer because the initial heating of the pulp
    >>> and water before
    >>> you put the sugar in is quite runny, but discovered that the ****ing
    >>> thing doesn't
    >>> even work at all, no action when you turn it on. I should have tried it
    >>> when it first arrived just
    >>> to check it worked. I have sent the seller an email but got an automated
    >>> response that
    >>> he was off on holiday for some chinese holiday, and didn't get any
    >>> response when
    >>> he had got back.

    >
    >> Well, I warned you about buying Chinese cooking machines, didn't I?! ;-)

    >
    > It isnt a cooking machine, itís a stirrer.
    >
    >> Go for, Japanese or German made ones.

    >
    > There arent any of those with that sort of stirrer.
    >
    >>> You can open it so if he doesn't respond to the second email I will open
    >>> it and see
    >>> what the problem is. Cant be much, it appears to just be a single switch
    >>> to an
    >>> ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >>> does have an ic because you press the
    >>> button multiple times for different speeds.
    >>> Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >>> its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >>> Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >>> to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and there was no burning at
    >>> all this time with only
    >>> occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >>> Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >>> heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches. ****ing expensive at
    >>> $70ish tho it would be

    >
    >> You can source them lot cheaper from Asian and Indian grocery/variety
    >> stores.

    >
    > Not with those very heavy composite bases in that size.
    > Those are commercial appliances.
    >
    >> Dunno whether you got any where you live, I reckon, it's a tough call.

    >
    > There are plenty of them here, lots of illegals fruit pickers.
    >
    > Singh is actually the most common surname here.
    >
    >>> worth it I guess for the much lower effort with stirring and not needing
    >>> any fancy stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an electric hotplate to
    >>> heat the thin stockpot.
    >>>
    >>> Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>> the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>> fine without any added pectin at all.

    >>
    >>




  8. #68
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses

    On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:25:08 +1000, "Damian"
    <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

    >>> Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.

    >>
    >> No thanks, I get them from people I know.
    >>
    >>> They are nothing like the supermarket ones.

    >>
    >> Yeah, much worse.
    >>
    >>> Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health

    >>
    >> Nope.
    >>
    >>> and avoiding cancer.

    >>
    >> Bullshit.

    >
    >I believe, the pesticides and other preservative chemicals can be one of the
    >causes of cancer.
    >
    >>
    >>> Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    >>> viable.

    >>
    >> It is when you get them from your own trees.

    >
    >Not possible to grow all those things.
    >
    >>
    >>> I eat, celery on regular basis,

    >>
    >> I haven't bothered since I was a kid.

    >
    >That would've been some 150 years ago, right?
    >The time when Ben Hall used to rob your dad's mail coaches, right?


    In Sydney at least avoid "organic" and Free Range they are scams to
    sell bad products at high prices. They have proven on investigation in
    ALL cases not even to be deserving of those names
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-0...elling/4991734
    Never any charges laid for running these scams
    With fruit & veges it is a good idea to rinse it with hot not boiling
    water to remove sprays
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  9. #69
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:fu6f59thqnbq089bmb6f71efnbgtjd90po@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:25:08 +1000, "Damian"
    > <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>>> Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.
    >>>
    >>> No thanks, I get them from people I know.
    >>>
    >>>> They are nothing like the supermarket ones.
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, much worse.
    >>>
    >>>> Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health
    >>>
    >>> Nope.
    >>>
    >>>> and avoiding cancer.
    >>>
    >>> Bullshit.

    >>
    >>I believe, the pesticides and other preservative chemicals can be one of
    >>the
    >>causes of cancer.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>> Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    >>>> viable.
    >>>
    >>> It is when you get them from your own trees.

    >>
    >>Not possible to grow all those things.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>> I eat, celery on regular basis,
    >>>
    >>> I haven't bothered since I was a kid.

    >>
    >>That would've been some 150 years ago, right?
    >>The time when Ben Hall used to rob your dad's mail coaches, right?

    >
    > In Sydney at least avoid "organic" and Free Range they are scams to
    > sell bad products at high prices. They have proven on investigation in
    > ALL cases not even to be deserving of those names
    > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-0...elling/4991734


    Yep. I already know 'free range' is a scam. They keep the chooks all day and
    night in the cages and let them go out in a small paddock, for about half an
    hour to
    pick on things. Nobody's policying it. A downright scam.

    whether organic is a scam or not, would depend on where and when you buy it.

    I'd imagine the ones in supermarkets are better, since they don't want
    muti-million dollar law suits.
    Still I don't think authorities do spot checks on samples to see whether
    they have any pesticides or chemicals.
    I reckon, basically, you are at the mercy of the grocer when buying organic
    stuff.
    My organic buying is limited to a few items stocked in ALDI.

    > Never any charges laid for running these scams
    > With fruit & veges it is a good idea to rinse it with hot not boiling
    > water to remove sprays.


    Yep, I usually dip them in sink full of water, and I peel off the skin of
    apples, pears, etc.
    Apparently it's the skin that stores the most of the chemicals.

    > --
    > Petzl
    > I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left




  10. #70
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses



    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l37ugl$k3q$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:bbodr2F1mpnU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>
    >>
    >> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:l35oog$8jh$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:bbmumnF3bs9U1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> Corn Maize etc
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>>>>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.
    >>>>
    >>>>> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need to paint pebbles
    >>>>> the same (red) color and scatter around. This deters birds from your
    >>>>> REAL STRAWBERRIES)
    >>>>
    >>>> Lot of work.
    >>>> I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >>>> it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers and
    >>>> wire to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >>>> had gone, it was too late.
    >>>> I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato seedlings
    >>>> have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >>>> individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father Toms and
    >>>> another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved that were only about
    >>>> 10cm high basically to see if it makes
    >>>> any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >>>> when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has produced a single
    >>>> small marble sized tomato.
    >>>> There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and I have left it
    >>>> much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >>>> I may let them go till next year again.
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >>>> lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >>>> the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >>>> Never had any luck with the Icebergs which are what I buy when I don't
    >>>> have any of mine. They never do much and never get to anything
    >>>> like what I buy.
    >>>
    >>> That 'cos the ones we buy from supermarkets are well doused with
    >>> chemicals and pesticides, unless you buy organic.

    >>
    >> Nope, thatís not true of lettuces and the Cos and Mignonettes of
    >> mine do fine, its only the Icebergs and similar heart lettuces that donít.
    >>
    >>> Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.

    >>
    >> No thanks, I get them from people I know.
    >>
    >>> They are nothing like the supermarket ones.

    >>
    >> Yeah, much worse.
    >>
    >>> Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health

    >>
    >> Nope.
    >>
    >>> and avoiding cancer.

    >>
    >> Bullshit.


    > I believe, the pesticides and other preservative chemicals can be one of
    > the causes of cancer.


    You're wrong.

    >>> Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    >>> viable.

    >>
    >> It is when you get them from your own trees.

    >
    > Not possible to grow all those things.


    Corse it is. It isnt even that hard to grow your own steaks either.

    >>> I eat, celery on regular basis,

    >>
    >> I haven't bothered since I was a kid.

    >
    > That would've been some 150 years ago, right?
    > The time when Ben Hall used to rob your dad's mail coaches, right?
    >
    >>
    >> and I looked at the organic ones the other
    >>> day at the supermarket.
    >>> They are four times the price, and one third the size of regular ones.
    >>> Skinny and duller than the normal ones.
    >>> I started growing the bastards, but may take forever.

    >>
    >>>> Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one batch of Lime and Lemon
    >>>> using the very expensive limes from woolys put thru the self checkout
    >>>> as
    >>>> lemons.

    >>
    >>> That's the way to go. Screw them. :-))

    >>
    >> I'm an owner too.

    >
    > Owner of what, lemons?!!


    Woolys, stupid.

    >>>>Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >>>> with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >>>> lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >>>> very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >>>> which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade. And then did another
    >>>> with normal lemons from
    >>>> a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars. Again very decent and
    >>>> much better than any of
    >>>> the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >>>> to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >>>> since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >>>> produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >>>> bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.

    >>
    >>> That's all good work. But, why do you need that much marmalade?
    >>> Sounds like you eat it everyday?

    >>
    >> Yeah, ****ing great slab of by own multigrain bread,
    >> as thick as will still fit in the toaster bought for the
    >> thickest slices toaster I could find, every day. Thatís
    >> all I have for breakfast, just that ****ing great slab
    >> of toast and marmalade.


    > That's crazy.


    Nope.

    > You must have built a one fat belly and a one fat butt.


    Nope, neither. On the very low end of the BMI scale in
    fact, low enough so that I needed to check if there is any
    downside with being outside that scale on the low end.

    > Multi-grain bread ain't bad, if you can stomach it,


    Leave all the other bread for dead.

    > I avoid bread altogether for good, other than occasional treat.


    More fool you.

    > Gluten free bread is ok,


    Nope, useless.

    > but expensive.


    Not if you make it yourself. Costs peanuts.

    > You see, I'm planning to live for around $150 years,


    Taint gunna happen, child.

    > around upto your age.
    > But, you've done it with marmalade and toasted bread.
    > Pretty amazing!
    >
    >>
    >>> Won't you get sick of it when you eat it regularly?

    >>
    >> Nope.

    >
    > I'm already sick in the stomach of hearing you doing it.
    > I better take a pill......


    Try this nice tasty cyanide pill...

    >>> Anyway, you might wanna read this.
    >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...edication.html

    >>
    >> Yeah, saw that from the ABC radio Health Report.
    >>
    >> When I asked the specialist about it he just said that I
    >> shouldnít be still on the clopidogrel and we stopped that.
    >>
    >>>> Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the limes are back in season
    >>>> again. That would fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >>>> marmalade that both arent in season here
    >>>> at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >>>> cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >>>> of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a 2:1 ratio anyway, twice as
    >>>> much lime as lemon.
    >>>>
    >>>> Did attempt to use the stirrer because the initial heating of the pulp
    >>>> and water before
    >>>> you put the sugar in is quite runny, but discovered that the ****ing
    >>>> thing doesn't
    >>>> even work at all, no action when you turn it on. I should have tried it
    >>>> when it first arrived just
    >>>> to check it worked. I have sent the seller an email but got an
    >>>> automated response that
    >>>> he was off on holiday for some chinese holiday, and didn't get any
    >>>> response when
    >>>> he had got back.

    >>
    >>> Well, I warned you about buying Chinese cooking machines, didn't I?! ;-)

    >>
    >> It isnt a cooking machine, itís a stirrer.
    >>
    >>> Go for, Japanese or German made ones.

    >>
    >> There arent any of those with that sort of stirrer.
    >>
    >>>> You can open it so if he doesn't respond to the second email I will
    >>>> open it and see
    >>>> what the problem is. Cant be much, it appears to just be a single
    >>>> switch to an
    >>>> ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >>>> does have an ic because you press the
    >>>> button multiple times for different speeds.
    >>>> Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >>>> its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >>>> Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >>>> to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and there was no burning at
    >>>> all this time with only
    >>>> occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >>>> Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >>>> heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches. ****ing expensive at
    >>>> $70ish tho it would be

    >>
    >>> You can source them lot cheaper from Asian and Indian grocery/variety
    >>> stores.

    >>
    >> Not with those very heavy composite bases in that size.
    >> Those are commercial appliances.
    >>
    >>> Dunno whether you got any where you live, I reckon, it's a tough call.

    >>
    >> There are plenty of them here, lots of illegals fruit pickers.
    >>
    >> Singh is actually the most common surname here.
    >>
    >>>> worth it I guess for the much lower effort with stirring and not
    >>>> needing any fancy stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an electric
    >>>> hotplate to heat the thin stockpot.
    >>>>
    >>>> Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>>> the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>>> fine without any added pectin at all.
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >


  11. #71
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Night Vision Yellow lenses


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbpvjrFb9dtU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    >
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l37ugl$k3q$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:bbodr2F1mpnU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:l35oog$8jh$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:bbmumnF3bs9U1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Corn Maize etc
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> Don't bother with those myself, simpler
    >>>>>>> to buy the corn as peas and corn frozen.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> I only bother with tomatoes, lettuce, strawberrys currently.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> To make birds go away from your strawberries you need to paint
    >>>>>> pebbles the same (red) color and scatter around. This deters birds
    >>>>>> from your REAL STRAWBERRIES)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Lot of work.
    >>>>> I was planning to use bird netting. Didn't get around to putting
    >>>>> it on last year, even tho I had it ready to do and the droppers and
    >>>>> wire to put it on too. By the time I noticed all the strawberrys
    >>>>> had gone, it was too late.
    >>>>> I have got the tomatoes and lettuce planted now. The tomato seedlings
    >>>>> have doubled in height, planted half with 30cm
    >>>>> individual seedlings for the Apollo Improved and the Father Toms and
    >>>>> another punnet of much smaller Apollo improved that were only about
    >>>>> 10cm high basically to see if it makes
    >>>>> any difference. The big ones mostly have flowers and did
    >>>>> when I planted them and one of the Father Toms has produced a single
    >>>>> small marble sized tomato.
    >>>>> There is no real sign of life from the strawberrys and I have left it
    >>>>> much too late to get rid of the weeds so
    >>>>> I may let them go till next year again.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't plant to plant anything else much, just more
    >>>>> lettuce in a month or so so I have some to eat when
    >>>>> the first lot of Cos and Mignonettes have gone to seed.
    >>>>> Never had any luck with the Icebergs which are what I buy when I don't
    >>>>> have any of mine. They never do much and never get to anything
    >>>>> like what I buy.
    >>>>
    >>>> That 'cos the ones we buy from supermarkets are well doused with
    >>>> chemicals and pesticides, unless you buy organic.
    >>>
    >>> Nope, thatís not true of lettuces and the Cos and Mignonettes of
    >>> mine do fine, its only the Icebergs and similar heart lettuces that donít.
    >>>
    >>>> Try buying organic oranges, pears, etc.
    >>>
    >>> No thanks, I get them from people I know.
    >>>
    >>>> They are nothing like the supermarket ones.
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, much worse.
    >>>
    >>>> Much smaller and crappy looking, but obviously better for health
    >>>
    >>> Nope.
    >>>
    >>>> and avoiding cancer.
    >>>
    >>> Bullshit.

    >
    >> I believe, the pesticides and other preservative chemicals can be one of
    >> the causes of cancer.

    >
    > You're wrong.
    >
    >>>> Problem is that, unless you got a fat super fund, eating organic ain't
    >>>> viable.
    >>>
    >>> It is when you get them from your own trees.

    >>
    >> Not possible to grow all those things.

    >
    > Corse it is. It isnt even that hard to grow your own steaks either.
    >
    >>>> I eat, celery on regular basis,
    >>>
    >>> I haven't bothered since I was a kid.

    >>
    >> That would've been some 150 years ago, right?
    >> The time when Ben Hall used to rob your dad's mail coaches, right?
    >>
    >>>
    >>> and I looked at the organic ones the other
    >>>> day at the supermarket.
    >>>> They are four times the price, and one third the size of regular ones.
    >>>> Skinny and duller than the normal ones.
    >>>> I started growing the bastards, but may take forever.
    >>>
    >>>>> Just done a year's worth of marmalade. Did one batch of Lime and Lemon
    >>>>> using the very expensive limes from woolys put thru the self checkout
    >>>>> as
    >>>>> lemons.
    >>>
    >>>> That's the way to go. Screw them. :-))
    >>>
    >>> I'm an owner too.

    >>
    >> Owner of what, lemons?!!

    >
    > Woolys, stupid.
    >
    >>>>>Then did another batch of lemon alone,
    >>>>> with the rest of the lemons I used for lime and
    >>>>> lemon batch. Unusual lemons, very thick skin,
    >>>>> very thick pith, at least 10mm thick. Seedless
    >>>>> which is handy. That's a very decent marmalade. And then did another
    >>>>> with normal lemons from
    >>>>> a mate of mine, one of the garage sale regulars. Again very decent and
    >>>>> much better than any of
    >>>>> the commercial marmalades. I'd been planning
    >>>>> to try so pure lemon marmalade last time but
    >>>>> since the database claimed that the box of limes
    >>>>> produced enough marmalade for 3 years, didn't
    >>>>> bother. Turned out it only lasted 2 years.
    >>>
    >>>> That's all good work. But, why do you need that much marmalade?
    >>>> Sounds like you eat it everyday?
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, ****ing great slab of by own multigrain bread,
    >>> as thick as will still fit in the toaster bought for the
    >>> thickest slices toaster I could find, every day. Thatís
    >>> all I have for breakfast, just that ****ing great slab
    >>> of toast and marmalade.

    >
    >> That's crazy.

    >
    > Nope.
    >
    >> You must have built a one fat belly and a one fat butt.

    >
    > Nope, neither. On the very low end of the BMI scale in
    > fact, low enough so that I needed to check if there is any
    > downside with being outside that scale on the low end.


    I would even believe you, if it happens that you don't eat marmalade and
    bread every morning.

    You must be glowing in good health and fitness right now, right?!!!

    >
    >> Multi-grain bread ain't bad, if you can stomach it,

    >
    > Leave all the other bread for dead.
    >
    >> I avoid bread altogether for good, other than occasional treat.

    >
    > More fool you.


    Wheat is crap. I avoid it at any cost on regular consumption.

    >
    >> Gluten free bread is ok,

    >
    > Nope, useless.


    It's a life extender, if you can handle the taste.

    >
    >> but expensive.

    >
    > Not if you make it yourself. Costs peanuts.


    True. You need a good breadmaker.

    >
    >> You see, I'm planning to live for around $150 years,

    >
    > Taint gunna happen, child.


    You have no idea. You ain't gonna be around to witness it.

    Now..........why does that put smirk on my face??!! :-)

    >
    >> around upto your age.
    >> But, you've done it with marmalade and toasted bread.
    >> Pretty amazing!
    >>
    >>>
    >>>> Won't you get sick of it when you eat it regularly?
    >>>
    >>> Nope.

    >>
    >> I'm already sick in the stomach of hearing you doing it.
    >> I better take a pill......

    >
    > Try this nice tasty cyanide pill...
    >
    >>>> Anyway, you might wanna read this.
    >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...edication.html
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, saw that from the ABC radio Health Report.
    >>>
    >>> When I asked the specialist about it he just said that I
    >>> shouldnít be still on the clopidogrel and we stopped that.
    >>>
    >>>>> Plan to try a pure lime marmalade when the limes are back in season
    >>>>> again. That would fix the problem with the lime and lemon
    >>>>> marmalade that both arent in season here
    >>>>> at the same time, no overlap at all so you
    >>>>> cant get a carton of each at the best price
    >>>>> of $10 for a 10KG carton of each. And its a 2:1 ratio anyway, twice as
    >>>>> much lime as lemon.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Did attempt to use the stirrer because the initial heating of the pulp
    >>>>> and water before
    >>>>> you put the sugar in is quite runny, but discovered that the ****ing
    >>>>> thing doesn't
    >>>>> even work at all, no action when you turn it on. I should have tried
    >>>>> it when it first arrived just
    >>>>> to check it worked. I have sent the seller an email but got an
    >>>>> automated response that
    >>>>> he was off on holiday for some chinese holiday, and didn't get any
    >>>>> response when
    >>>>> he had got back.
    >>>
    >>>> Well, I warned you about buying Chinese cooking machines, didn't I?!
    >>>> ;-)
    >>>
    >>> It isnt a cooking machine, itís a stirrer.
    >>>
    >>>> Go for, Japanese or German made ones.
    >>>
    >>> There arent any of those with that sort of stirrer.
    >>>
    >>>>> You can open it so if he doesn't respond to the second email I will
    >>>>> open it and see
    >>>>> what the problem is. Cant be much, it appears to just be a single
    >>>>> switch to an
    >>>>> ic and likely a wire has come off. But it
    >>>>> does have an ic because you press the
    >>>>> button multiple times for different speeds.
    >>>>> Bit dubious that it will work very well tho,
    >>>>> its quite light even with the 4 AA batterys.
    >>>>> Both of the lemon batches were small enough
    >>>>> to fit in the very heavy base 8l stockpot and there was no burning at
    >>>>> all this time with only
    >>>>> occasional stirring with a big wooden spoon.
    >>>>> Still tossing up whether to get another very
    >>>>> heavy base 18l stockpot for the normal batches. ****ing expensive at
    >>>>> $70ish tho it would be
    >>>
    >>>> You can source them lot cheaper from Asian and Indian grocery/variety
    >>>> stores.
    >>>
    >>> Not with those very heavy composite bases in that size.
    >>> Those are commercial appliances.
    >>>
    >>>> Dunno whether you got any where you live, I reckon, it's a tough call.
    >>>
    >>> There are plenty of them here, lots of illegals fruit pickers.
    >>>
    >>> Singh is actually the most common surname here.
    >>>
    >>>>> worth it I guess for the much lower effort with stirring and not
    >>>>> needing any fancy stirrer in the big pedestal drill with an electric
    >>>>> hotplate to heat the thin stockpot.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Managed to forget to put the pectin in with
    >>>>> the last lemon marmalade batch and it set
    >>>>> fine without any added pectin at all.
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>




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