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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    I thought shopping at Amazon meant saving money and not giving
    business to Walmart, but started noticing too many of the "site to
    store" prices were precisely the same (to the penny) as they are on
    Amazon. Apparently stuff ships from Amazon's warehouse to Walmart
    stores. Probably not a good thing for consumers.

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    Ext User(Hench) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    On 9/23/2013 4:39 PM, John Doe wrote:
    > I thought shopping at Amazon meant saving money and not giving
    > business to Walmart, but started noticing too many of the "site to
    > store" prices were precisely the same (to the penny) as they are on
    > Amazon. Apparently stuff ships from Amazon's warehouse to Walmart
    > stores. Probably not a good thing for consumers.
    >



    you have any cites for these claims?

    Since Walmart refused to sell anymore kindles from Amazon last year, are
    Walmarts now allowed to sell kindles again?

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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    Hench <idonot@know.ca> wrote:

    > John Doe wrote:


    >> I thought shopping at Amazon meant saving money and not giving
    >> business to Walmart, but started noticing too many of the "site to
    >> store" prices were precisely the same (to the penny) as they are on
    >> Amazon. Apparently stuff ships from Amazon's warehouse to Walmart
    >> stores. Probably not a good thing for consumers.


    > you have any cites for these claims?


    It's easy enough to see if you do a lot of online shopping
    between Walmart and Amazon. Here are a few without putting much
    effort into it. They probably conform to a pattern, like "free
    shipping" and "site to store".

    At least two, probably more, Coleman Quickbeds...

    COLEMAN QUICKBED TWIN

    http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-200001...+quickbed+twin

    You might have to select "twin" in the "Size" drop-down box.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-20...tress/21783654

    COLEMAN 4-IN-1 QUICKBED TWIN/KING

    http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-4-in-1...+quickbed+twin

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-4-...ckBed/21914207

    HOLMES TRUE HEPA ALLERGEN REMOVER

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...e+Air+Purifier

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/True-HEPA-...Holmes/9189154



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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    Sorry, in the Amazon Holmes allergen filter link, you might have
    to search for the price (88.87) to easily find it in the list.

    They are all sold by Walmart and by Amazon (officially) for
    precisely the same price. And there are probably hundreds or
    thousands more. Not sure, but maybe finding them could be done
    programmatically.

    There could be another reason, like price matching, but I doubt
    that.

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    Ext User(Annie Woughman) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon



    "John Doe" wrote in message news:l1r4og$n2b$1@dont-email.me...

    Sorry, in the Amazon Holmes allergen filter link, you might have
    to search for the price (88.87) to easily find it in the list.

    They are all sold by Walmart and by Amazon (officially) for
    precisely the same price. And there are probably hundreds or
    thousands more. Not sure, but maybe finding them could be done
    programmatically.

    There could be another reason, like price matching, but I doubt
    that.

    Of course it is price matching. Stores price match their competition ALL
    THE TIME. Walmart doesn't need Amazon and Amazon doesn't need Walmart, but
    they do need to make sure they don't get undercut by the other.


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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    "Annie Woughman" <anniewoughman hotmail.com> wrote:

    > "John Doe" wrote in message news:l1r4og$n2b$1 dont-email.me...
    >
    > Sorry, in the Amazon Holmes allergen filter link, you might have
    > to search for the price (88.87) to easily find it in the list.
    >
    > They are all sold by Walmart and by Amazon (officially) for
    > precisely the same price. And there are probably hundreds or
    > thousands more. Not sure, but maybe finding them could be done
    > programmatically.
    >
    > There could be another reason, like price matching, but I doubt
    > that.
    >
    > Of course it is price matching.


    Says someone who doesn't even know how to format a USENET reply...

    > Stores price match their competition ALL THE TIME. Walmart
    > doesn't need Amazon and Amazon doesn't need Walmart, but they do
    > need to make sure they don't get undercut by the other.


    That shows a basic lack of understanding about the desire for big
    corporations to control markets. If not for antitrust law, one big
    corporation would sell everything we buy. If you don't think that
    Walmart and Amazon would eagerly cooperate in order to gain even
    more market share, you are naïve. Most likely, Walmart is
    threatened by Amazon and has entered into an agreement to have
    some stuff shipped from Amazon warehouses to Walmart stores. Lots
    of people still prefer to buy locally for the ability to more
    easily return an item, and for other reasons. It's a good match of
    big corporations.










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    Ext User(Grinder) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    On 9/23/2013 11:34 PM, John Doe wrote:
    > Sorry, in the Amazon Holmes allergen filter link, you might have
    > to search for the price (88.87) to easily find it in the list.
    >
    > They are all sold by Walmart and by Amazon (officially) for
    > precisely the same price. And there are probably hundreds or
    > thousands more. Not sure, but maybe finding them could be done
    > programmatically.
    >
    > There could be another reason, like price matching, but I doubt
    > that.
    >


    So...

    Your theory is that Wal-mart is advertising products that Amazon sells
    so that they can, when ordered from their own website, buy them retail
    from Amazon and ship them to their store all for absolutely no margin?

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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    Grinder <grinder no.spam.maam.com> wrote:

    > John Doe wrote:


    >> Sorry, in the Amazon Holmes allergen filter link, you might
    >> have to search for the price (88.87) to easily find it in the
    >> list.
    >>
    >> They are all sold by Walmart and by Amazon (officially) for
    >> precisely the same price. And there are probably hundreds or
    >> thousands more. Not sure, but maybe finding them could be done
    >> programmatically.
    >>
    >> There could be another reason, like price matching, but I doubt
    >> that.


    > Your theory is that Wal-mart is advertising products that Amazon
    > sells


    Both are advertising the same products for precisely the same
    price.

    > so that they can, when ordered from their own website,


    Technically speaking, a "website" is computer hardware. Ordering
    "from a website" is a common accepted definition that doesn't mean
    what you are suggesting. Things are much more fluid than that.

    > buy them retail from Amazon


    Buy them retail? That is more semantics that don't apply in this
    situation. Obviously Amazon would not charge Walmart the same for
    however many jillion products Walmart buys from Amazon.

    Do you really think that just because you see the price, that must
    be the price Amazon charges Walmart?

    > and ship them to their store all for absolutely no margin?


    They would split the profit.

    Walmart is good at shipping truckloads of products at a time.
    Amazon is good at shipping individual products. Walmart has
    thousands of storefronts, Amazon has none. Walmart doesn't want to
    lose business to Amazon. As long as "site to store" is a popular
    option, makes perfect sense for Walmart to enter such a deal with
    Amazon.

    If you disagree... Your task is to find examples that are
    precisely the same price that Walmart does not ship "site to
    store".
















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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    This is not uncommon, in fact. Lots of major brick and mortar
    stores (including Walmart) advertise products from online
    merchants. What I'm suggesting is that Walmart and Amazon are
    doing it covertly.

    This is like third grade marketing, but... When Walmart sells a
    product that it shows from another website, of course it gets some
    of the prophet.

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    Ext User(John Doe) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon

    This thing doesn't know how to format a USENET post, and it is
    criticizing me for a simple speech recognition error.

    In the context of the sentence it was used in, listen to how the
    word "prophet" sounds without paying attention to the spelling.
    And ye shall be enlightened...

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    > "John Doe" wrote in message news:l1slni$skv$1 dont-email.me...
    >
    > This is not uncommon, in fact. Lots of major brick and mortar
    > stores (including Walmart) advertise products from online
    > merchants. What I'm suggesting is that Walmart and Amazon are
    > doing it covertly.
    >
    > This is like third grade marketing, but... When Walmart sells a
    > product that it shows from another website, of course it gets some
    > of the prophet.
    >
    > And which "prophet" would that be? Noah? Adam? Maybe Isaiah?
    >
    > How about profit?
    >
    >



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    Ext User(Annie Woughman) Guest

    Re: OT Walmart in bed with Amazon



    "John Doe" wrote in message news:l1slni$skv$1@dont-email.me...

    This is not uncommon, in fact. Lots of major brick and mortar
    stores (including Walmart) advertise products from online
    merchants. What I'm suggesting is that Walmart and Amazon are
    doing it covertly.

    This is like third grade marketing, but... When Walmart sells a
    product that it shows from another website, of course it gets some
    of the prophet.

    And which "prophet" would that be? Noah? Adam? Maybe Isaiah?

    How about profit?

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