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  1. #1
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    SAAB returns


  2. #2
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    > SAAB started production:
    > http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html


    I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...

    Jason


  3. #3
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On 23/09/13 7:17 AM, jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    > SAAB started production:
    > http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html


    ****... Do these people just not get the message or something? No one
    *wants* the ****s of things, which is why they went out of business in
    the first place.




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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  4. #4
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On 23/09/13 7:51 AM, Jason James wrote:

    > I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    > A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...


    That's because they are. They also share the world record for the
    slowest turbocharged car on the planet (along with the Mitsubishi Cordia).



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    Regards,
    Noddy.

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    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    > SAAB started production:
    > http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html
    >


    Nobody wants 11 year old Opel/Holden Vectras.


  6. #6
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Clocky wrote:
    > jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    >> SAAB started production:
    >> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html
    >>

    >
    > Nobody wants 11 year old Opel/Holden Vectras.


    Agree,..just to replace a rear wheel bearing in one costs big spondoolah.

    Jason


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    Ext User(John_H) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Jason James wrote:
    >
    >I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >A/Craft.


    A different company makes the aircraft. Same goes for Scania trucks.
    Nor is the company now building Saab cars likely to be the same one
    that made the last lot! :)

    --
    John H

  8. #8
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    John_H wrote:
    > Jason James wrote:
    >>
    >> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >> A/Craft.

    >
    > A different company makes the aircraft. Same goes for Scania trucks.
    > Nor is the company now building Saab cars likely to be the same one
    > that made the last lot! :)
    >

    Dead set. I'm surprised,..altho Saab may mean vehicle in Swedish ? :-)

    Jason

  9. #9
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:51:02 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    >jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    >> SAAB started production:
    >> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html

    >
    >I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...


    Off the blacktop, they fall apart quicker than Jonz in a pie-free
    prison.

  10. #10
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Jeßus wrote:
    > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:51:02 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    >>> SAAB started production:
    >>> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html

    >>
    >> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >> A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...

    >
    > Off the blacktop, they fall apart quicker than Jonz in a pie-free
    > prison.


    No good for any rallys then like the London to Daker or the old Redex
    rally,...

    Jason


  11. #11
    Ext User(John_H) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Jason James wrote:
    >John_H wrote:
    >> Jason James wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >>> A/Craft.

    >>
    >> A different company makes the aircraft. Same goes for Scania trucks.
    >> Nor is the company now building Saab cars likely to be the same one
    >> that made the last lot! :)
    >>

    >Dead set. I'm surprised,..altho Saab may mean vehicle in Swedish ? :-)


    SAAB is an acronym for the aircraft company formed at the end of WW2.
    Splits, acquisitions, takeovers and bankrupcies means there's now very
    little, if any, connection between the carmaker and the original
    company.

    --
    John H

  12. #12
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 23/09/13 7:51 AM, Jason James wrote:
    >
    >> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >> A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...

    >
    > That's because they are. They also share the world record for the
    > slowest turbocharged car on the planet (along with the Mitsubishi Cordia).


    Maybe some earlier models ? Have a gander at these figures

    Saab Viggen


    Saab 9-3 Viggen
    A high-powered version of the Saab 9-3 was the "Viggen" (English:
    Thunderbolt). It was named after the Saab 37 Viggen aircraft. Production
    ended in 2002.
    It came with a turbocharged 2.3 L engine, (B235R) giving 225 bhp (168
    kW; 228 PS) later 230 bhp (172 kW; 233 PS) on 1.4 bar (20 psi) of boost
    from its Mitsubishi TD04-HL15-5 turbocharger. Acceleration from 0–100
    km/h could be reached in 6.4 seconds and the top speed is electronically
    limited to 250 km/h (160 mph).

    The Cordia had something like 3 Ibs boost,..plus an annoying cool-down
    timer on the donk.

    Jason

  13. #13
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:08:35 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    >Jeßus wrote:
    >> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:51:02 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    >>>> SAAB started production:
    >>>> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html
    >>>
    >>> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >>> A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...

    >>
    >> Off the blacktop, they fall apart quicker than Jonz in a pie-free
    >> prison.

    >
    >No good for any rallys then like the London to Daker or the old Redex
    >rally,...


    Call me suspicious, but I don't think those cars are factory standard.

    Tell my nearby neighbor about how wonderful SAABs are off the
    bitumen... his was literally rattling apart, to the point where he
    gave up and sold it.

  14. #14
    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    <jablotaimoric@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:e416cd68-37ca-4506-a263-a105f53c2d36@googlegroups.com...
    > SAAB started production:
    > http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html


    Can you confirm the validity of this? A BlogSpot site with two tiny articles
    can be created by a primary school kid in under ten minutes (in fact, most
    are!), and certainly wouldn't be the avenue through which anyone with any
    authority would be posting.

    Actually, having a look at the headers, I'd go so far as to suggest you
    crawl back into the **** from which you spewed and never dare breathe the
    Earth's oxygen again, you spamming piece of shit.

    Or in other words, vrati se u picku materinu da nikada vise ne udahnes zrak
    ovog svijeta.

    ****ing spammers! And worse still, ****ing gullible (most likely religious)
    regulars in this group falling for it.

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


  15. #15
    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    "Noddy" <me@wardengineering.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l1onfu$g7h$2@dont-email.me...
    > On 23/09/13 4:12 PM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >
    >> ****ing spammers! And worse still, ****ing gullible (most likely
    >> religious) regulars in this group falling for it.

    >
    > I don't think anyone gave enough of a **** to get excited, did they?


    http://youtu.be/pnjyf7IaQSE ;-)

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


  16. #16
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On 23/09/13 3:45 PM, Jason James wrote:

    > Roll reversal here !!
    >
    > I'm defending a Swedish car against an EF Falcon defended by the severe
    > critic of Ford products "in contemporary times" >> Nod !


    I would think anyone would pick a small turbo 4 over something like an
    EF Falcon, especially these days, but not a SAAB for ****'s sake. They
    are truly one of the world's most ****ing cars :)

    > Come to think of it, Nod has said the EF wasn't a bad car,..but to
    > compare it against turboed 2.3L euro-shitbox ?? Well I dont know.


    I do. I'd rather push a ****ing wheelbarrow full of bricks than own a
    SAAB of any description :)

    > Anyway here's the Ford's figures>>>
    >
    > . The XR6 delivers 164 kW @ 5000 rpm up from 161 kW in the ED Falcon.
    > The XR8 has a 5.0-litre OHV (over head valve) V8 delivering 170 kW @
    > 4500 rpm up from the 165 kW in the ED Falcon. LPG was not offered as a
    > factory option on the XR6 and XR8 models.
    >
    > Huh !! *3 kw* more in the XR6 compared to ED XR6 ? Let me park a
    > tiger>>Bluuueeiiach !!


    You appreciate that an "XR" series Falcon is just a regular Falcon with
    a tacho and alloy wheels, right?

    They were (and still are) in the business of building taxis. Not hot rods.

    > Total output for an EF XR6 is 164KW,..8KW SHORT OF THE big 2.3L Saab.
    > The figures talk for themselves, people :-)


    No, they don't actually :) Go drive both and get back to us.

    The SAAB might make more power, but the V8 Falcon will still be running
    when the SAAB has been recycled into an Ikea coffee table and it *won't*
    suffer from the SAAB's terrible lag problems or it's inability to haul 4
    people and their luggage around without taking a massive performance hit.

    > Jason :-) NB>> I like Fords,..but have been severely disappointed with
    > some of their shenanigans,..i.e. 200hp 351 2V shit Cleveland motor. I
    > mean,..FMFlo, they could have at least given the engine some pay-back
    > power wise, for all its fuel guzzling...Arseholes :-)


    They were at the mercy of the emissions laws like anyone else Jason, and
    the Cleveland wasn't a particularly good engine if preventing raw
    unburnt fuel being thrown out into the atmosphere was what you were
    trying to do. On the other hand, if you wanted something that made an
    easy 400hp without too much ****ing about it was pretty good.

    Still, you can't have it both ways.



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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  17. #17
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    On 23/09/13 4:12 PM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:

    > ****ing spammers! And worse still, ****ing gullible (most likely
    > religious) regulars in this group falling for it.


    I don't think anyone gave enough of a **** to get excited, did they?



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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  18. #18
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    > Can you confirm the validity of this? A BlogSpot site with two tiny articles
    >
    > can be created by a primary school kid in under ten minutes (in fact, most
    >
    > are!), and certainly wouldn't be the avenue through which anyone with any
    >
    > authority would be posting.
    >
    >
    >
    > Actually, having a look at the headers, I'd go so far as to suggest you
    >
    > crawl back into the **** from which you spewed and never dare breathe the
    >
    > Earth's oxygen again, you spamming piece of shit.
    >
    >
    >
    > Or in other words, vrati se u picku materinu da nikada vise ne udahnes zrak
    >
    > ovog svijeta.
    >
    >
    >
    > ****ing spammers! And worse still, ****ing gullible (most likely religious)
    >
    > regulars in this group falling for it.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Bob Milutinovic
    >
    > Cognicom


    You can google it if you don't believe it. I see that Balkan mentality never changes, even when a person is in the civilized world. Thanks for the insults, Bob!

  19. #19
    Ext User(F Murtz) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    Jeßus wrote:
    > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:08:35 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Jeßus wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:51:02 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> jablotaimoric@gmail.com wrote:
    >>>>> SAAB started production:
    >>>>> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html
    >>>>
    >>>> I like the look of some Saabs, plus they also make medium-size passenger
    >>>> A/Craft. However some folks say their cars a junk...
    >>>
    >>> Off the blacktop, they fall apart quicker than Jonz in a pie-free
    >>> prison.

    >>
    >> No good for any rallys then like the London to Daker or the old Redex
    >> rally,...

    >
    > Call me suspicious, but I don't think those cars are factory standard.
    >
    > Tell my nearby neighbor about how wonderful SAABs are off the
    > bitumen... his was literally rattling apart, to the point where he
    > gave up and sold it.


    My problem with saabs would not be their specs or lack of them.
    I just look at the owners of Saab species of mankind, It completely
    rules out the marque.
    Any vehicle that attracts such people can not be good.



  20. #20
    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

    Re: SAAB returns

    "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> wrote in message
    news:524026d9$0$29862$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraw eb.com...
    > Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >> <jablotaimoric@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:e416cd68-37ca-4506-a263-a105f53c2d36@googlegroups.com...
    >>> SAAB started production:
    >>> http://insideautomobileindustry.blog...b-is-back.html

    >>
    >> Can you confirm the validity of this? A BlogSpot site with two tiny
    >> articles can be created by a primary school kid in under ten minutes (in
    >> fact, most are!), and certainly wouldn't be the avenue through which
    >> anyone with any authority would be posting.
    >>
    >> Actually, having a look at the headers, I'd go so far as to suggest you
    >> crawl back into the **** from which you spewed and never dare breathe
    >> the Earth's oxygen again, you spamming piece of shit.
    >>
    >> Or in other words, vrati se u picku materinu da nikada vise ne udahnes
    >> zrak ovog svijeta.
    >>
    >> ****ing spammers! And worse still, ****ing gullible (most likely
    >> religious) regulars in this group falling for it.
    >>

    >
    > Nobody cared enough, but a quick Google seems to suggest that there is an
    > element of truth in it.


    Truth or otherwise, when you spend several hours of each and every day
    battling spam as I do, you get more than a little miffed by some kid
    thinking he's got the world by the balls because he knows how to create a
    BlogSpot account and spam newsgroups through Google.

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


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