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  1. #21
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 10:38 AM, Xeno Lith wrote:

    > You would have done well in Germany 1939-45


    I think so. I would have joined the SS I think. I never cared much for
    their politics but their uniforms were awesome :)





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  2. #22
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 11:56 AM, Buzz^| wrote:

    > 2 things.
    >
    > 1) Bikes are nasty things when they get brake fade.


    Bikes are *way* easier a prospect without brakes than any car. Ask a
    speedway bike rider :)

    > 2) When confronted with snipers shooting from the tunnels under Lae the
    > "solution" was to seal the entrances and introduce exhaust gasses to the
    > miles of tunnels under what is now Top Town. The tunnels being a huge
    > war hospital, when the Japs evacuated they could only take those that
    > could march leaving plenty of wounded to act as snipers. The gassing was
    > done by the Aussies and the Yanks.


    What the **** does any of that shit have to do with brake fade?



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  3. #23
    Ext User(Buzz^|) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/2013 8:58 AM, John_H wrote:
    > Jason James wrote:
    >> John_H wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Not that either is the correct way to go down a mountain... but you
    >>> already knew that! (The alternative to 'riding the brakes' is to
    >>> select the correct gear.) :)

    >>
    >>
    >> On that occasion I tried that. Engine too small to help !

    >
    > Then you either tried to descend too fast, or the mountain would've
    > been too steep to climb as well! ;-)
    >
    > There's a good reason for the 'trucks use low gear' signs at the
    > beginning of steep descents.... *If the driver of a truck or bus is
    > driving on a length of road to which a trucks and buses low gear sign
    > applies, the driver must drive the truck or bus in a gear that is low
    > enough to limit the speed of the truck or bus without the use of a
    > primary brake*.
    >


    2 things.

    1) Bikes are nasty things when they get brake fade. The RMX250 I have,
    being a 2 stroke needs special care when descending the mountains around
    here. Frequent stops are the best precaution. From sea level up to 2000m
    being one of the rides I like doing fairly frequently. The XR400 it's
    just a matter of gearing but the 2 smoke doesn't have the compression to
    slow it down too much. Boiling the brake fluid is usually caused by
    water build up and can contribute a lot to brake fade. Replacing the
    fluid yearly is a good idea.

    2) When confronted with snipers shooting from the tunnels under Lae the
    "solution" was to seal the entrances and introduce exhaust gasses to the
    miles of tunnels under what is now Top Town. The tunnels being a huge
    war hospital, when the Japs evacuated they could only take those that
    could march leaving plenty of wounded to act as snipers. The gassing was
    done by the Aussies and the Yanks.


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  4. #24
    Ext User(F Murtz) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Buzz^| wrote:
    > On 27/09/2013 8:58 AM, John_H wrote:
    >> Jason James wrote:
    >>> John_H wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Not that either is the correct way to go down a mountain... but you
    >>>> already knew that! (The alternative to 'riding the brakes' is to
    >>>> select the correct gear.) :)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On that occasion I tried that. Engine too small to help !

    >>
    >> Then you either tried to descend too fast, or the mountain would've
    >> been too steep to climb as well! ;-)
    >>
    >> There's a good reason for the 'trucks use low gear' signs at the
    >> beginning of steep descents.... *If the driver of a truck or bus is
    >> driving on a length of road to which a trucks and buses low gear sign
    >> applies, the driver must drive the truck or bus in a gear that is low
    >> enough to limit the speed of the truck or bus without the use of a
    >> primary brake*.
    >>

    >
    > 2 things.
    >
    > 1) Bikes are nasty things when they get brake fade. The RMX250 I have,
    > being a 2 stroke needs special care when descending the mountains around
    > here. Frequent stops are the best precaution. From sea level up to 2000m
    > being one of the rides I like doing fairly frequently. The XR400 it's
    > just a matter of gearing but the 2 smoke doesn't have the compression to
    > slow it down too much. Boiling the brake fluid is usually caused by
    > water build up and can contribute a lot to brake fade. Replacing the
    > fluid yearly is a good idea.
    >
    > 2) When confronted with snipers shooting from the tunnels under Lae the
    > "solution" was to seal the entrances and introduce exhaust gasses to the
    > miles of tunnels under what is now Top Town. The tunnels being a huge
    > war hospital, when the Japs evacuated they could only take those that
    > could march leaving plenty of wounded to act as snipers. The gassing was
    > done by the Aussies and the Yanks.
    >
    >



    You are back,where have you been?

  5. #25
    Ext User(Buzz^|) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/2013 12:24 PM, jonz wrote:
    > On 9/27/2013 8:58 AM, John_H wrote:
    >> Jason James wrote:
    >>> John_H wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Not that either is the correct way to go down a mountain... but you
    >>>> already knew that! (The alternative to 'riding the brakes' is to
    >>>> select the correct gear.) :)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On that occasion I tried that. Engine too small to help !

    >>
    >> Then you either tried to descend too fast, or the mountain would've
    >> been too steep to climb as well! ;-)
    >>
    >> There's a good reason for the 'trucks use low gear' signs at the
    >> beginning of steep descents.... *If the driver of a truck or bus is
    >> driving on a length of road to which a trucks and buses low gear sign
    >> applies, the driver must drive the truck or bus in a gear that is low
    >> enough to limit the speed of the truck or bus without the use of a
    >> primary brake*.

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > He was told all that months ago when he first spoke of his antics on the
    > Clyde mountain!........
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>

    >
    >


    I swapped positions within the organisation and now I don't have time to
    scratch. I was waiting for a container that I am fitting out into an
    office, back at my old PC and decided to drop in here.

    Still riding my XR in the hills and catching a lot of fish.

    I am dealing with GPS fleet tracking now more than anything else.

    Seeing plenty of the country while doing it. Wewak and Hagen mostly but
    we took the bikes to Kaivang and that was a great trip.

    I've been setting up control centres that have a wall of 42" monitors to
    watch the fleets and plan loads. Twin view and triple view video cards
    are what I have to do battle with now, not Noddy.

    Guiding in the storm troopers (Mobile squad, like the US SWAT team) to
    recapture a hijacked vehicle is a bit of a rush, had the opportunity to
    lead the chase again a month or so ago in the bush near Hagen. Leading 2
    landcruiser troopies loaded with machine gun toting cops (have pics) to
    within 50m of an armed, car stealing group gets the heart pumping.

    I'll be down here (at Springs) most of the weekend so I'll get to check
    in again.

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  6. #26
    Ext User(Xeno Lith) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 12:10 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 11:56 AM, Buzz^| wrote:
    >
    >> 2 things.
    >>
    >> 1) Bikes are nasty things when they get brake fade.

    >
    > Bikes are *way* easier a prospect without brakes than any car. Ask a
    > speedway bike rider :)
    >
    >> 2) When confronted with snipers shooting from the tunnels under Lae the
    >> "solution" was to seal the entrances and introduce exhaust gasses to the
    >> miles of tunnels under what is now Top Town. The tunnels being a huge
    >> war hospital, when the Japs evacuated they could only take those that
    >> could march leaving plenty of wounded to act as snipers. The gassing was
    >> done by the Aussies and the Yanks.

    >
    > What the **** does any of that shit have to do with brake fade?
    >
    >
    >

    About as much as your brake fade experience with a Hyundai Getz. It just
    showed you up for a jerk who hadn't a clue how to properly negotiate a
    downhill run.

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    Xeno

  7. #27
    Ext User(John McKenzie) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Noddy wrote:
    >
    > On 27/09/13 10:38 AM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    >
    > > You would have done well in Germany 1939-45

    >
    > I think so. I would have joined the SS I think. I never cared much for
    > their politics but their uniforms were awesome :)


    I think I've related this before, but a few years back I was going out
    with a Jewish girl and at the time had a shaved head. I've worn army
    pants most of my life, and it has a way different impression (I now
    know) depending on if I had long hair or a shaved head. One of her
    friends (actually more than one) suggested I looked like a neo-nazi.

    I had a variety of responses that included the line about 'say what you
    want about them but they were the best dressed', the other big one was
    'yes, you caught me, I'm a neo nazi, but I have such wit and charm that
    she was able to overlook politics and be with me'

    my mate suggested an ever weirder tact (after all teh very accusation
    that I'm a neo nazi, is ****ing absurd and deserves ridicule) and egged
    me to say 'look pal, I didn't ask to be born as one of the master race,
    I just was, so it's a responsibility I've got to take most seriously'

    I wish I had heard your grandfather dying at auschwitz line back then, I
    definitely would have stolen it and claimed it as my own.



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  8. #28
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    jonz wrote:
    > On 9/27/2013 8:58 AM, John_H wrote:
    >> Jason James wrote:
    >>> John_H wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Not that either is the correct way to go down a mountain... but you
    >>>> already knew that! (The alternative to 'riding the brakes' is to
    >>>> select the correct gear.) :)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On that occasion I tried that. Engine too small to help !

    >>
    >> Then you either tried to descend too fast, or the mountain would've
    >> been too steep to climb as well! ;-)
    >>
    >> There's a good reason for the 'trucks use low gear' signs at the
    >> beginning of steep descents.... *If the driver of a truck or bus is
    >> driving on a length of road to which a trucks and buses low gear sign
    >> applies, the driver must drive the truck or bus in a gear that is low
    >> enough to limit the speed of the truck or bus without the use of a
    >> primary brake*.

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > He was told all that months ago when he first spoke of his antics on the
    > Clyde mountain!........


    This question was about the physics of braking. It was only when John
    pointed an actual example [engine braking]that the discussion went to
    the Clyde mtn example.

    Jason


  9. #29
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 12:12 PM, Buzz^| wrote:

    >
    > t's a shame you don't live next door to me, as I'd back my GT up against
    > your house, drill a pair of holes through your wall and ****ing gas you.


    Clearly you've been ****ing too many pigmys and caught a dose of
    something nasty :)



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  10. #30
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 2:24 PM, Xeno Lith wrote:

    > About as much as your brake fade experience with a Hyundai Getz. It just
    > showed you up for a jerk who hadn't a clue how to properly negotiate a
    > downhill run.


    Why do you feel it necessary to stick your ****ing unwanted **** of a
    nose into every conversation?

    Are you thick or something? Are you not getting the message? Do you not
    understand that I (and probably most other people around here) couldn't
    give a flying **** about anything you may have to say?





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  11. #31
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    In article <jmk949hq51ha1ri9jaqds7mdcsicjj0fk2@4ax.com>, none@all.org says...
    > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:28:11 +1000, Noddy <me@wardengineering.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On 27/09/13 12:14 AM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    > >
    > >> With your self confessed inability to avoid brake fade, I was thinking
    > >> precisely the same thing about you!

    > >
    > >It's a shame you don't live next door to me, as I'd back my GT up
    > >against your house, drill a pair of holes through your wall and ****ing
    > >gas you.

    >
    > Very creative :)
    >

    I doubt he'd be able to start the GT so his toxic farts would have to do the
    job. 2 holes in case one got blocked by splatter before the job was done.
    Mind you he could buy a more reliable old Merc. Very effective at gassing
    koalas.

    Al
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    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  12. #32
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Xeno Lith wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 10:28 AM, Noddy wrote:
    >> On 27/09/13 12:14 AM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    >>
    >>> With your self confessed inability to avoid brake fade, I was thinking
    >>> precisely the same thing about you!

    >>
    >> It's a shame you don't live next door to me, as I'd back my GT up
    >> against your house, drill a pair of holes through your wall and ****ing
    >> gas you.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > You would have done well in Germany 1939-45
    >


    His penchant for wanting to gas people as well as his bigheaded
    pigheaded ignorance and arrogance is because he is part Kraut.






  13. #33
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 2:24 PM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    >
    >> About as much as your brake fade experience with a Hyundai Getz. It just
    >> showed you up for a jerk who hadn't a clue how to properly negotiate a
    >> downhill run.

    >
    > Why do you feel it necessary to stick your ****ing unwanted **** of a
    > nose into every conversation?
    >
    > Are you thick or something? Are you not getting the message? Do you not
    > understand that I (and probably most other people around here) couldn't
    > give a flying **** about anything you may have to say?
    >
    >


    He's got a valid point on this occasion however.
    You simply can't ****ing drive.


  14. #34
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 8:55 PM, Clocky wrote:

    > His penchant for wanting to gas people as well as his bigheaded
    > pigheaded ignorance and arrogance is because he is part Kraut.


    And with the Dutch being wannabee Germans, what the **** does that make
    you? :)



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  15. #35
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 8:57 PM, Clocky wrote:

    > He's got a valid point on this occasion however.


    Considering that he's a professional bullshit artist, you are completely
    wrong. He never has a valid point ever.

    > You simply can't ****ing drive.


    How the **** would you know dickhead?



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  16. #36
    Ext User(Xeno Lith) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 10:24 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 8:57 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >
    >> He's got a valid point on this occasion however.

    >
    > Considering that he's a professional bullshit artist, you are completely
    > wrong. He never has a valid point ever.


    Where's your response to my explanation of torque steer with respect to
    power steering? You completely dissed that valid point. You didn't even
    offer to logically counter it.
    >
    >> You simply can't ****ing drive.

    >
    > How the **** would you know dickhead?
    >

    Your own words Noddy, your own words!


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  17. #37
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 27/09/13 11:10 PM, Xeno Lith wrote:

    >
    > Where's your response to my explanation of torque steer with respect to
    > power steering? You completely dissed that valid point. You didn't even
    > offer to logically counter it.


    You're clearly not the brightest texta in the packet and will never
    figure it out for yourself, so I'll give you a hint.

    If you're waiting for me to engage in a serious conversation with you
    then you are going to be waiting for a ****ing *hell* of a long time. I
    don't like you, I think you're a ****ing lying **** and I have no
    intention of *ever* engaging you in serious conversation.

    All you will ever get from me is insult and/or ridicule, so persist with
    that if you like or just simply give up and **** off.

    Your call.






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  18. #38
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 8:57 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >
    >> He's got a valid point on this occasion however.

    >
    > Considering that he's a professional bullshit artist, you are completely
    > wrong. He never has a valid point ever.
    >
    >> You simply can't ****ing drive.

    >
    > How the **** would you know dickhead?
    >
    >
    >


    By what you posted yourself you twat.


  19. #39
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 27/09/13 11:10 PM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Where's your response to my explanation of torque steer with respect to
    >> power steering? You completely dissed that valid point. You didn't even
    >> offer to logically counter it.

    >
    > You're clearly not the brightest texta in the packet and will never
    > figure it out for yourself, so I'll give you a hint.
    >
    > If you're waiting for me to engage in a serious conversation with you
    > then you are going to be waiting for a ****ing *hell* of a long time. I
    > don't like you, I think you're a ****ing lying **** and I have no
    > intention of *ever* engaging you in serious conversation.
    >
    > All you will ever get from me is insult and/or ridicule, so persist with
    > that if you like or just simply give up and **** off.
    >
    > Your call.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Stop being so angry. Sheez.

  20. #40
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: A question of physics>>

    On 28/09/2013 2:44 AM, Clocky wrote:
    > Noddy wrote:
    >> On 27/09/13 8:57 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >>
    >>> He's got a valid point on this occasion however.

    >>
    >> Considering that he's a professional bullshit artist, you are completely
    >> wrong. He never has a valid point ever.
    >>
    >>> You simply can't ****ing drive.

    >>
    >> How the **** would you know dickhead?
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > By what you posted yourself you twat.
    >


    If you drive 10 different cars down the same hill at the same speed in
    the same way and one out of the 10 experiences fade then its the fault
    of the car not the driver, I would only blame the driver if the car
    actually crashed when they previously knew that the car they were
    driving was prone to fade.

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