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  1. #1
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re. CFLs

    My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for light
    and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.


  2. #2
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    wrote:

    >My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for light
    >and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.


    Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  3. #3
    Ext User(Don McKenzie) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for light
    >> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >
    > Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    > Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe


    My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there is such an animal.

    --
    Don McKenzie

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  4. #4
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

    >On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for light
    >>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >>
    >> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe

    >
    >My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there is such an animal.


    The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    expensive
    The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    Think the Fluro bulb type are better value
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  5. #5
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >
    >>On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from
    >>>> my
    >>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>> light
    >>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.
    >>>
    >>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe

    >>
    >>My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there is
    >>such an animal.

    >
    > The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    > expensive
    > The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    > Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.


    I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    electricity savings.
    I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap now.
    I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that common.
    Won't be the case in near future.

    > --
    > Petzl
    > I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left




  6. #6
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>> in
    >>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>> from my
    >>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>>> light
    >>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>> posted.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>
    >>>My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there is
    >>>such an animal.

    >>
    >> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >> expensive
    >> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >
    > I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    > electricity savings.
    > I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    > LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    > now.
    > I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    > common.
    > Won't be the case in near future.


    The problem as I see it (or not see it) is the lack of lumens..

    >
    >> --
    >> Petzl
    >> I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

    >
    >



  7. #7
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:21:38 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote:

    >>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>> expensive
    >>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >>
    >> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    >> electricity savings.
    >> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >> now.
    >> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >> common.
    >> Won't be the case in near future.

    >
    >The problem as I see it (or not see it) is the lack of lumens..


    The Woolworths (not BigW)13W Phillips LED bulb is equal brightness to
    a 75W incandescent bulb (that's the largest LED size I saw)
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  8. #8
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 22:43:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    >On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:21:38 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote:
    >
    >>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>> expensive
    >>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>
    >>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    >>> electricity savings.
    >>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>> now.
    >>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>> common.
    >>> Won't be the case in near future.

    >>
    >>The problem as I see it (or not see it) is the lack of lumens..

    >
    >The Woolworths (not BigW)13W Phillips LED bulb is equal brightness to
    >a 75W incandescent bulb (that's the largest LED size I saw)


    http://negergy.com.au/collections/li...d-bulb-e27-b22

  9. #9
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:lc5o4956ne2ahn9k9g7cqs0ljgq16kcaei@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 22:43:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:21:38 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>> expensive
    >>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>
    >>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>> the
    >>>> electricity savings.
    >>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>> now.
    >>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>> common.
    >>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>
    >>>The problem as I see it (or not see it) is the lack of lumens..

    >>
    >>The Woolworths (not BigW)13W Phillips LED bulb is equal brightness to
    >>a 75W incandescent bulb (that's the largest LED size I saw)

    >
    > http://negergy.com.au/collections/li...d-bulb-e27-b22
    >

    Energy saving wise LEDs aren't any better than CFLs, by the looks of it.
    I think it's life span, they are better at. But, I'm not too sure about the
    claimed lifespan of LEDs.
    Individual LEDs tend to die in some of the LED globes, lights that I
    purchased for the car and my bike.
    Dunno about the house globes, but I'm still sceptical about their claimed 15
    year lifespan.
    I have CFLs that have been going for over five years without any issues.



  10. #10
    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    > "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>> in
    >>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>> from my
    >>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>>> light
    >>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>> posted.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>
    >>>My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there is
    >>>such an animal.

    >>
    >> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >> expensive
    >> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >
    > I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    > electricity savings.
    > I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    > LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    > now.
    > I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    > common.
    > Won't be the case in near future.


    FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd guesstimate
    they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a ten-pack including
    postage; http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html

    The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap; they're
    worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


  11. #11
    Ext User(annily) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 03.10.13 06:24, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>> one in
    >>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>> from my
    >>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>> for light
    >>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>
    >>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>
    >>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>> expensive
    >>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >>
    >> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >> the electricity savings.
    >> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >> now.
    >> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >> common.
    >> Won't be the case in near future.

    >
    > FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    > guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    > ten-pack including postage; http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >
    > The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    > (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    > they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >


    OTOH, the 5W ones I have in my (small) kitchen and bedroom claim 450 Lm
    and are at brighter to my eyes as than 40W incandescents. They were
    dearer than those though.

    --
    Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia

  12. #12
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:l2i15j$j2p$1@dont-email.me...
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>>> in
    >>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>> from my
    >>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>>>> light
    >>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>
    >>>>My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if there
    >>>>is such an animal.
    >>>
    >>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>> expensive
    >>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >>
    >> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify the
    >> electricity savings.
    >> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >> now.
    >> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >> common.
    >> Won't be the case in near future.

    >
    > FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    > guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    > ten-pack including postage;
    > http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html


    ALDI sell these ones for around $15 for a four pack.

    >
    > The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    > (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap; they're
    > worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >
    > --
    > Bob Milutinovic
    > Cognicom
    >




  13. #13
    Ext User(keithr) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 3/10/2013 1:37 AM, Damian wrote:
    > "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:lc5o4956ne2ahn9k9g7cqs0ljgq16kcaei@4ax.com...
    >> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 22:43:11 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:21:38 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> electricity savings.
    >>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>>> now.
    >>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>> common.
    >>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>
    >>>> The problem as I see it (or not see it) is the lack of lumens..
    >>>
    >>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W Phillips LED bulb is equal brightness to
    >>> a 75W incandescent bulb (that's the largest LED size I saw)

    >>
    >> http://negergy.com.au/collections/li...d-bulb-e27-b22
    >>

    > Energy saving wise LEDs aren't any better than CFLs, by the looks of it.
    > I think it's life span, they are better at. But, I'm not too sure about the
    > claimed lifespan of LEDs.
    > Individual LEDs tend to die in some of the LED globes, lights that I
    > purchased for the car and my bike.
    > Dunno about the house globes, but I'm still sceptical about their claimed 15
    > year lifespan.
    > I have CFLs that have been going for over five years without any issues.
    >
    >

    On the ones that I have, the LEDs are probably OK, but the electronics
    run very hot. I'd suspect that will be the eventual cause of failure

  14. #14
    Ext User(keithr) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    > "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>> one in
    >>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>> from my
    >>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>> for light
    >>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>
    >>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>
    >>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>> expensive
    >>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.

    >>
    >> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >> the electricity savings.
    >> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >> now.
    >> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >> common.
    >> Won't be the case in near future.

    >
    > FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    > guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    > ten-pack including postage; http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >
    > The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    > (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    > they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >

    The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no
    startup delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.

    I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and
    charger all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the
    big 12v incandescent unit that it will replace.

    I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal,
    shone on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10
    secs. Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away

  15. #15
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    > On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>
    >>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>> expensive
    >>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>
    >>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>> the electricity savings.
    >>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>> now.
    >>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>> common.
    >>> Won't be the case in near future.

    >>
    >> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >> ten-pack including postage;
    >> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>
    >> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >>

    > The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    > better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no startup
    > delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >
    > I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    > day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and charger
    > all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    > incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >
    > I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal, shone
    > on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10 secs.
    > Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away


    Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser pointer
    with me,
    otherwise I reckon it may get through.



  16. #16
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

    >
    >"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>> expensive
    >>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>
    >>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>> now.
    >>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>> common.
    >>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>
    >>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>
    >>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >>>

    >> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no startup
    >> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>
    >> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    >> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and charger
    >> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>
    >> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal, shone
    >> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10 secs.
    >> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away

    >
    >Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser pointer
    >with me,
    >otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >

    You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally
    I mean what good are they?
    The 3 of the 4 8W ALDI LED's still working are adequate for me
    The Woolworths 13W Philips (made in China) $20 and equal to 75W
    incandescent bulb are better value, I hate dimly lit rooms
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  17. #17
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ko0t49575qosbvfclo2fe57f8fua3eb141@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    > <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >>news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>>> now.
    >>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>> common.
    >>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>
    >>>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>>
    >>>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >>>>
    >>> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >>> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no
    >>> startup
    >>> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>>
    >>> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    >>> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and
    >>> charger
    >>> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >>> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>>
    >>> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal,
    >>> shone
    >>> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10 secs.
    >>> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away

    >>
    >>Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser
    >>pointer
    >>with me,
    >>otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>

    > You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally
    > I mean what good are they?
    > The 3 of the 4 8W ALDI LED's still working are adequate for me
    > The Woolworths 13W Philips (made in China) $20 and equal to 75W
    > incandescent bulb are better value, I hate dimly lit rooms


    $20 for single 75W LED globe is bit too much for me.
    I don't think you get value of the money for years, comparing to cfls.
    Same cfl is less than five bucks and lasts for a very long time.
    I have a cfl, that's been going for over seven years now. And I use it a
    lot, in the sense, I turn it on and off million times a day,
    'cos I'm obsessed with saving electricity(a true blue greenie). :-)
    I can't justify spending $20 for a single 75W light globe. The guaranteed 15
    year lifespan may turn out to be like the life span of early
    writable CDs(100 year guarantee).
    I would wait

    > --
    > Petzl
    > I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left




  18. #18
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:06:09 +1000, "Damian"
    <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

    >>>
    >>>Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser
    >>>pointer
    >>>with me,
    >>>otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>>

    >> You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally
    >> I mean what good are they?
    >> The 3 of the 4 8W ALDI LED's still working are adequate for me
    >> The Woolworths 13W Philips (made in China) $20 and equal to 75W
    >> incandescent bulb are better value, I hate dimly lit rooms

    >
    >$20 for single 75W LED globe is bit too much for me.
    >I don't think you get value of the money for years, comparing to cfls.
    >Same cfl is less than five bucks and lasts for a very long time.
    >I have a cfl, that's been going for over seven years now. And I use it a
    >lot, in the sense, I turn it on and off million times a day,
    >'cos I'm obsessed with saving electricity(a true blue greenie). :-)
    >I can't justify spending $20 for a single 75W light globe. The guaranteed 15
    >year lifespan may turn out to be like the life span of early
    >writable CDs(100 year guarantee).
    >I would wait


    Agreed the junk/dollar shops in Sydney sell 20W fluro bulbs = 120W (?)
    incandescant for under $5
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  19. #19
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    wrote:

    >My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for light
    >and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.


    ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  20. #20
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:dgs359tnndgk5riu9tcgdj1omic4d7fh84@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >>hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>light
    >>and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >
    > ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    > https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    > Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China


    Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.

    > --
    > Petzl
    > I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left



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