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  1. #21
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:15:44 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote:

    >
    >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:dgs359tnndgk5riu9tcgdj1omic4d7fh84@4ax.com.. .
    >> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>>lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from my
    >>>hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>light
    >>>and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >>
    >> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China

    >
    >Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.
    >

    I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems

    I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for a complaint form
    (this takes 30 minutes to get?).

    They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    Pays to complain to MAKE them good

    The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies. Most
    households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace). Hate these
    Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go to when you don't want to shop at
    Aldi
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  2. #22
    Ext User(keithr) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 4/10/2013 7:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    > <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>>> now.
    >>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>> common.
    >>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>
    >>>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>>
    >>>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >>>>
    >>> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >>> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no startup
    >>> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>>
    >>> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    >>> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and charger
    >>> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >>> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>>
    >>> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal, shone
    >>> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10 secs.
    >>> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away

    >>
    >> Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser pointer
    >> with me,
    >> otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>

    > You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally


    you may enjoy shoving things up your arse (or having them shoved up) but
    personally, I can live without the experience. BTW, if you are going to
    shove a 450mW laser up your arse, it would be a good idea to take the
    battery out first as, if it gets turned on, you may get a bad case of
    heartburn.

  3. #23
    Ext User(keithr) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On 4/10/2013 3:22 PM, Damian wrote:
    > "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W globe
    >>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>> expensive
    >>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>
    >>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt cheap
    >>>> now.
    >>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>> common.
    >>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>
    >>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>
    >>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W incandescents.
    >>>

    >> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no startup
    >> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>
    >> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the other
    >> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and charger
    >> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>
    >> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal, shone
    >> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10 secs.
    >> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away

    >
    > Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser pointer
    > with me,
    > otherwise I reckon it may get through.


    I have a couple that I brought in before they became prohibited imports,
    one is quite powerful, but not that powerful.


  4. #24
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    news:bbfha8Feg9oU1@mid.individual.net...
    > On 4/10/2013 7:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    >> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed
    >>>>>>>>>> cfl
    >>>>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W
    >>>>>>>>> globe
    >>>>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt
    >>>>>> cheap
    >>>>>> now.
    >>>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>>> common.
    >>>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>>>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>>>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>>>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>>>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W
    >>>>> incandescents.
    >>>>>
    >>>> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >>>> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no
    >>>> startup
    >>>> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>>>
    >>>> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the
    >>>> other
    >>>> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and
    >>>> charger
    >>>> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >>>> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>>>
    >>>> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal,
    >>>> shone
    >>>> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10
    >>>> secs.
    >>>> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away
    >>>
    >>> Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser
    >>> pointer
    >>> with me,
    >>> otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>>

    >> You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally

    >
    > you may enjoy shoving things up your arse (or having them shoved up) but
    > personally, I can live without the experience. BTW, if you are going to
    > shove a 450mW laser up your arse, it would be a good idea to take the
    > battery out first as, if it gets turned on, you may get a bad case of
    > heartburn.


    Now,....since you reminded me, I almost send a brand new one to Roddles with
    the battery in. I'll make sure to take the battery out now, so
    he won't get a bad case of 'heartburn'(or arse burn). ;-)



  5. #25
    Ext User(Bob Milutinovic) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    news:bbfha8Feg9oU1@mid.individual.net...
    > On 4/10/2013 7:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    >> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed
    >>>>>>>>>> cfl
    >>>>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny
    >>>>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W
    >>>>>>>>> globe
    >>>>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to justify
    >>>>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt
    >>>>>> cheap
    >>>>>> now.
    >>>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>>> common.
    >>>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>>>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>>>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>>>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>>>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W
    >>>>> incandescents.
    >>>>>
    >>>> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >>>> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no
    >>>> startup
    >>>> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>>>
    >>>> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the
    >>>> other
    >>>> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and
    >>>> charger
    >>>> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >>>> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>>>
    >>>> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal,
    >>>> shone
    >>>> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10
    >>>> secs.
    >>>> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away
    >>>
    >>> Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser
    >>> pointer
    >>> with me,
    >>> otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>>

    >> You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally

    >
    > you may enjoy shoving things up your arse (or having them shoved up) but
    > personally, I can live without the experience. BTW, if you are going to
    > shove a 450mW laser up your arse, it would be a good idea to take the
    > battery out first as, if it gets turned on, you may get a bad case of
    > heartburn.


    http://www.gastrohep.com/images_pdfs...mallison34.jpg

    ;-)

    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom


  6. #26
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    > SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote


    >>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from
    >>>> my
    >>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>> light and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>> posted.


    >>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China


    >> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.


    > I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems


    > I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    > a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).


    > They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    > Pays to complain to MAKE them good


    > The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    > for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.


    That last is just plain wrong.

    > Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).


    But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    > Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    > to when you don't want to shop at Aldi


    I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    obviously enjoyed that the last time.


  7. #27
    Ext User(John G) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    Rod Speed brought next idea :
    > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one in
    >>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl from
    >>>>> my
    >>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the dunny for
    >>>>> light and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>> posted.

    >
    >>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China

    >
    >>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.

    >
    >> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems

    >
    >> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).

    >
    >> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >> Pays to complain to MAKE them good

    >
    >> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.

    >
    > That last is just plain wrong.



    What does the E in ES stand for?
    Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.
    >
    >> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).

    >
    > But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.


    My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time but
    Bayonets are either on or OFF
    >
    >> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi

    >
    > I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    > illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    > obviously enjoyed that the last time.


    --
    John G



  8. #28
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:08:04 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
    wrote:

    >>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.

    >>
    >> That last is just plain wrong.

    >
    >
    >What does the E in ES stand for?
    >Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.


    Good point I only saw them used in 1950's as they baynot type were
    being pinched

    >>
    >>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).

    >>
    >> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    >
    >My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time but
    >Bayonets are either on or OFF
    >>

    But bad news trying to replace when hot


    >>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi

    >>
    >> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >> obviously enjoyed that the last time.

    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  9. #29
    Ext User(John G) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    Petzl explained :
    > On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:08:04 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.
    >>>
    >>> That last is just plain wrong.

    >>
    >>
    >> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.

    >
    > Good point I only saw them used in 1950's as they baynot type were
    > being pinched
    >

    Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from USA or
    Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.
    In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a swinging lamp with or
    withour shade in each room.
    >>>
    >>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).
    >>>
    >>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    >>
    >> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time but
    >> Bayonets are either on or OFF
    >>>

    > But bad news trying to replace when hot
    >
    >
    >>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi
    >>>
    >>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.


    --
    John G



  10. #30
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    > Petzl wrote
    >> John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au wrote


    >>>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.


    >>>> That last is just plain wrong.


    >>> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >>> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.


    >> Good point I only saw them used in 1950's
    >> as they baynot type were being pinched


    > Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from
    > USA or Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.


    But there were still some ES bulbs used then.

    > In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a
    > swinging lamp with or withour shade in each room.


    Bullshit. That was certainly common but nothing mostly.

    >>>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).


    >>>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.


    >>> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time but
    >>> Bayonets are either on or OFF


    >> But bad news trying to replace when hot


    >>>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi


    >>>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.



  11. #31
    Ext User(John G) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    Rod Speed has brought this to us :
    > John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    >> Rod Speed wrote
    >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>>>> in lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>>> from my hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the
    >>>>>>> dunny for light and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain,
    >>>>>>> cost of 2 posted.

    >
    >>>>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China

    >
    >>>>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.

    >
    >>>> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems

    >
    >>>> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >>>> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).

    >
    >>>> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >>>> Pays to complain to MAKE them good

    >
    >>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.

    >
    >>> That last is just plain wrong.

    >
    >> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.

    >
    > Irrelevant to 'designed in the 50's for companies
    > to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'


    Patented in 1909 by Edison and General Electric and Mazda
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw

    >
    >>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).

    >
    >>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    >
    >> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time

    >
    > None of mine ever have.

    Your experience is limited
    >
    >> but Bayonets are either on or OFF

    >
    > Some of mine haven't been that either,
    > particular the ones where the metal the
    > pin goes into isnt thick enough.

    Yes that happens
    >
    >>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi

    >
    >>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.


    --
    John G



  12. #32
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote


    >>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>>> in lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed cfl
    >>>>>> from my hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the
    >>>>>> dunny for light and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain,
    >>>>>> cost of 2 posted.


    >>>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China


    >>>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.


    >>> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems


    >>> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >>> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).


    >>> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >>> Pays to complain to MAKE them good


    >>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.


    >> That last is just plain wrong.


    > What does the E in ES stand for?
    > Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.


    Irrelevant to 'designed in the 50's for companies
    to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'

    >>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).


    >> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.


    > My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time


    None of mine ever have.

    > but Bayonets are either on or OFF


    Some of mine haven't been that either,
    particular the ones where the metal the
    pin goes into isnt thick enough.

    >>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi


    >> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >> obviously enjoyed that the last time.




  13. #33
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:30:56 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >> Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from
    >> USA or Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.

    >
    >But there were still some ES bulbs used then.
    >

    Personally not seen them till a pom electrician suggest we use them to
    stop pilfering

    >> In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a
    >> swinging lamp with or withour shade in each room.

    >
    >Bullshit. That was certainly common but nothing mostly.


    Our "old" house built 1930's ? but our "new" 1952 house had similar
    ones we use today (but brown bakelite)
    --
    Petzl
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left

  14. #34
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:l2us1c$s35$1@dont-email.me...
    > "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:bbfha8Feg9oU1@mid.individual.net...
    >> On 4/10/2013 7:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:22:25 +1000, "Damian"
    >>> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:bb6tsvFka8mU1@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>> On 3/10/2013 6:54 AM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:
    >>>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:l2g0nv$ftg$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> newschm491372aj1mc6im7g240dlrnn3mcon6@4ax.com...
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:49:54 +1000, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 01-Oct-13 7:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:01:52 +1000, "SG1" <Lost.it@theraces.com>
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>>>> one in
    >>>>>>>>>>> lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed
    >>>>>>>>>>> cfl
    >>>>>>>>>>> from my
    >>>>>>>>>>> hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than the
    >>>>>>>>>>> dunny
    >>>>>>>>>>> for light
    >>>>>>>>>>> and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the drain, cost of 2
    >>>>>>>>>>> posted.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Sometimes ALDI sell them around $10 each, the 8W equal to 60W
    >>>>>>>>>> globe
    >>>>>>>>>> Woolworths sell 13W Phillips $20 each, equal to 75W globe
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> My recent 8W LEDs were rubbish also.
    >>>>>>>>> Have to find the so called new generation that actually work, if
    >>>>>>>>> there is such an animal.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> The ALDI 8W ones are OK although one of the four died so proved
    >>>>>>>> expensive
    >>>>>>>> The Woolworths (not BigW)13W is good BUT cost $20
    >>>>>>>> Think the Fluro bulb type are better value.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I reckon that's true. I can't find LED ones cheaper enough to
    >>>>>>> justify
    >>>>>>> the electricity savings.
    >>>>>>> I would wait few more months to see a price drop.
    >>>>>>> LED bike lights that I paid a fortune not too long ago, are dirt
    >>>>>>> cheap
    >>>>>>> now.
    >>>>>>> I think LED house globs are overpriced 'cos they are still not that
    >>>>>>> common.
    >>>>>>> Won't be the case in near future.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> FWIW, these 12W downlights are pretty close to 50W halogens (I'd
    >>>>>> guesstimate they'd be equivalent to 45W halogens) - under $30 for a
    >>>>>> ten-pack including postage;
    >>>>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/711794406.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The 15W full-size bayonnet bulbs I ordered though
    >>>>>> (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/s/854699604.html) are utter crap;
    >>>>>> they're worse than CFLs, probably barely on par with 40W
    >>>>>> incandescents.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> The 10w LEDs that I bought from Aldi 4 months ago are excellent, far
    >>>>> better light than the 15w CFDs that they replaced (and there is no
    >>>>> startup
    >>>>> delay). I'll buy more of them if Aldi have them again.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I also bought a great LED torch of a street stall in Hong Kong the
    >>>>> other
    >>>>> day. Aluminium waterproof body, Cree LED, rechargeable battery and
    >>>>> charger
    >>>>> all for HKD100 ($13.89). It has a great beam, better than the big 12v
    >>>>> incandescent unit that it will replace.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I got offered a 450mW blue laser pointer for $90 too, the real deal,
    >>>>> shone
    >>>>> on the plywood counter of the stall, it produced smoke in about 10
    >>>>> secs.
    >>>>> Its just a pity that Customs would probably have taken it away
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, they would, if you walk onto them and say I have a deadly laser
    >>>> pointer
    >>>> with me,
    >>>> otherwise I reckon it may get through.
    >>>>
    >>> You can insert 450mW blue laser pointers anally

    >>
    >> you may enjoy shoving things up your arse (or having them shoved up) but
    >> personally, I can live without the experience. BTW, if you are going to
    >> shove a 450mW laser up your arse, it would be a good idea to take the
    >> battery out first as, if it gets turned on, you may get a bad case of
    >> heartburn.

    >
    > http://www.gastrohep.com/images_pdfs...mallison34.jpg
    >
    > ;-)


    This is hemorroids, most likely caused by excessive booze
    consumption.....remind me of somebody.......Hmmmmm... is this Rod(no
    I didn't witness it, just my educated guess). :-))

    >
    > --
    > Bob Milutinovic
    > Cognicom
    >




  15. #35
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    >>> Rod Speed wrote
    >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote


    >>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>> one in lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash.
    >>>>>>>> Removed cfl from my hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever,
    >>>>>>>> worse than the dunny for light and this is a small room. Ah well
    >>>>>>>> $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.


    >>>>>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>>>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>>>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China


    >>>>>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.


    >>>>> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems


    >>>>> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >>>>> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).


    >>>>> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >>>>> Pays to complain to MAKE them good


    >>>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.


    >>>> That last is just plain wrong.


    >>> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >>> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.


    >> Irrelevant to 'designed in the 50's for companies
    >> to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'


    > Patented in 1909 by Edison and General Electric and Mazda
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw


    Irrelevant to his line about 'designed in the 50's for companies
    to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'

    >>>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).


    >>>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.


    >>> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time


    >> None of mine ever have.


    > Your experience is limited


    Wrong, as always. I've been using them
    since before you were even born thanks.

    >>> but Bayonets are either on or OFF


    >> Some of mine haven't been that either,
    >> particular the ones where the metal the
    >> pin goes into isnt thick enough.


    > Yes that happens


    So they aren't just on or off.

    >>>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi


    >>>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.




  16. #36
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote


    >>> Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from
    >>> USA or Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.


    >> But there were still some ES bulbs used then.


    > Personally not seen them till a pom electrician
    > suggest we use them to stop pilfering


    >>> In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a
    >>> swinging lamp with or withour shade in each room.


    >> Bullshit. That was certainly common but nothing mostly.


    > Our "old" house built 1930's ? but our "new" 1952 house
    > had similar ones we use today (but brown bakelite)


    None of the houses I ever lived in had lights like that
    and I lived in a lot more than just 2 houses too.

  17. #37
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbh8miFq1rsU1@mid.individual.net...
    > John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    >> Rod Speed wrote
    >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had one
    >>>>>>> in lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash. Removed
    >>>>>>> cfl from my hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever, worse than
    >>>>>>> the dunny for light and this is a small room. Ah well $13 down the
    >>>>>>> drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >
    >>>>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China

    >
    >>>>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison screw.

    >
    >>>> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems

    >
    >>>> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >>>> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).

    >
    >>>> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >>>> Pays to complain to MAKE them good

    >
    >>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.

    >
    >>> That last is just plain wrong.

    >
    >> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.

    >
    > Irrelevant to 'designed in the 50's for companies
    > to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'
    >
    >>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).

    >
    >>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    >
    >> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time

    >
    > None of mine ever have.


    You should be able tp buy an adapter from China, either to turn bayonet type
    to screw type or vice versa.

    >
    >> but Bayonets are either on or OFF

    >
    > Some of mine haven't been that either,
    > particular the ones where the metal the
    > pin goes into isnt thick enough.
    >
    >>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi

    >
    >>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.

    >
    >




  18. #38
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbhhjjFrktpU1@mid.individual.net...
    > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >
    >>>> Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from USA or
    >>>> Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.

    >
    >>> But there were still some ES bulbs used then.

    >
    >> Personally not seen them till a pom electrician suggest we use them to
    >> stop pilfering

    >
    >>>> In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a swinging lamp with or
    >>>> withour shade in each room.

    >
    >>> Bullshit. That was certainly common but nothing mostly.

    >
    >> Our "old" house built 1930's ? but our "new" 1952 house had similar ones
    >> we use today (but brown bakelite)

    >
    > None of the houses I ever lived in had lights like that
    > and I lived in a lot more than just 2 houses too.


    I thought you lived in the same house for a long time.
    Or are you talking about even before that? Did they have light globes back
    then?!



  19. #39
    Ext User(Damian) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbhhduFrju4U1@mid.individual.net...
    > John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    >> Rod Speed wrote
    >>> John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote
    >>>> Rod Speed wrote
    >>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote
    >>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>>>> SG1 <Lost.it@theraces.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>>>>>> My 8W LEDs finally arrived from Sinkers. SWMBO hates them, I had
    >>>>>>>>> one in lounge moved to dunny (the light) still not too flash.
    >>>>>>>>> Removed cfl from my hideyhole aka computer room/office/whatever,
    >>>>>>>>> worse than the dunny for light and this is a small room. Ah well
    >>>>>>>>> $13 down the drain, cost of 2 posted.

    >
    >>>>>>>> ALDI have 10W for sale $12 = to 60W incandescent bulb
    >>>>>>>> https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-b...ted-varieties/
    >>>>>>>> Their 1st ones were $8 made in Germany these are made in China

    >
    >>>>>>> Have not seen bayonet in either store in Toowoomba only Edison
    >>>>>>> screw.

    >
    >>>>>> I bought one yesterday not selling well it seems

    >
    >>>>>> I agree with you though, moan scream and ask for
    >>>>>> a complaint form (this takes 30 minutes to get?).

    >
    >>>>>> They pulled this stunt in my Ambarvale store.
    >>>>>> Pays to complain to MAKE them good

    >
    >>>>>> The screw thread while a good secure type, were designed in the 50's
    >>>>>> for companies to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies.

    >
    >>>>> That last is just plain wrong.

    >
    >>>> What does the E in ES stand for?
    >>>> Answer. Edison from that 1890s inventor.

    >
    >>> Irrelevant to 'designed in the 50's for companies
    >>> to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'

    >
    >> Patented in 1909 by Edison and General Electric and Mazda
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw

    >
    > Irrelevant to his line about 'designed in the 50's for companies
    > to stop "workers" pilfering them from companies'
    >
    >>>>>> Most households ARE bayonet type (easy to put in and replace).

    >
    >>>>> But ES works much better with cheap and nasty manufacturing.

    >
    >>>> My experince with ES lamps is that they work loose over time

    >
    >>> None of mine ever have.

    >
    >> Your experience is limited

    >
    > Wrong, as always. I've been using them
    > since before you were even born thanks.


    I believe you. You probably even remember the times before light globes
    existed, when the nsw police were chasing,
    Jimmy governor with their home made catapults and sticks.

    >
    >>>> but Bayonets are either on or OFF

    >
    >>> Some of mine haven't been that either,
    >>> particular the ones where the metal the
    >>> pin goes into isnt thick enough.

    >
    >> Yes that happens

    >
    > So they aren't just on or off.
    >
    >>>>>> Hate these Aldi's that are the Aldi's you go
    >>>>>> to when you don't want to shop at Aldi

    >
    >>>>> I'd have you publicly flogged for that obscenely
    >>>>> illiterate apostrophe abuse if you hadn't so
    >>>>> obviously enjoyed that the last time.

    >
    >




  20. #40
    Ext User(SG1) Guest

    Re: Re. CFLs


    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bbhoimF97mU1@mid.individual.net...
    > Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>>> Before 1950 or even 1960 there were very few imported (from USA or
    >>>>>> Europe) lamp holders and we had local or English models.

    >
    >>>>> But there were still some ES bulbs used then.

    >
    >>>> Personally not seen them till a pom electrician suggest we use them to
    >>>> stop pilfering

    >
    >>>>>> In fact the ordinary house mostly had just a swinging lamp with or
    >>>>>> withour shade in each room.

    >
    >>>>> Bullshit. That was certainly common but nothing mostly.

    >
    >>>> Our "old" house built 1930's ? but our "new" 1952 house had similar
    >>>> ones we use today (but brown bakelite)

    >
    >>> None of the houses I ever lived in had lights like that
    >>> and I lived in a lot more than just 2 houses too.

    >
    >> I thought you lived in the same house for a long time.

    >
    > Yes, but that one is well after the time being discussed there.
    >> Or are you talking about even before that?

    >
    > Yep.
    >> Did they have light globes back then?!

    >
    > Yep, tho we did also use other lights when camping etc.


    Notice Roddles trying to deflect to some other light, Classic Roddles.


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