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  1. #21
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    OzOne@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:

    >
    > Leyland had a problem with sand in the water jackeyts of their P76 V8.
    > It would beeak loose and clog radiators causing overheating.
    > They woul flush and flush but the car would be back again in a matter
    > of months.



    Because the chances of CSand being spread thru-out the rest of the
    casting, it sounds like it's a total write-off.

    I used to try and wash out all the debris from engine and head
    castings,..after grinding work had been done,...*and* it was a waste of
    time. Once garbage had been allowed to spread thru-out the casting,..you
    never get it all.[speaking for myself !]

    Sure, the little allen keyed oil-drillings allowed force-gushing with
    water,...you'd think it was all done ? Nay, after a 2nd strip-down
    there was *always* some crap left in the crank oil-drillings, for example.

    I had a differential failure in a '62 Morris Major. The hemisphere
    cracked, allowing a heap of swarf to be generated and spread thru the
    housing. I used a mirror and a magnet to try and remove the millions of
    tiny cast-iron flecks thru out the banjoe-case. No go :-(. It caused the
    early demise of the 2nd Diff-centre I fitted. You need to replace the
    whole diff-assembley...[those were the days...shudder ]



    Jason

  2. #22
    Ext User(Xeno Lith) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 4/10/13 2:13 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 04/10/13 9:41 AM, D Walford wrote:
    >
    >> My experience has been very much the opposite but that could be partly
    >> because I bought the cars we have now were bought new and older cars
    >> were bought second hand and had done a few kms.

    >
    > I still get to do a fair bit of work on people's cars these days even
    > though I'm in "retirement", and I can tell you there are a lot of "bugs"
    > out there with new'ish cars. Some of it the dealers and/or factory can't
    > even take care of.
    >
    > Either because they don't know how, or they simply aren't interested in
    > trying.
    >
    >

    Retired? You talk like you're still full on in the industry! Enforced
    retirement or got the sack and can't get another job, hence the quotes
    around "retirement" in your comment.

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    Xeno

  3. #23
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    Jason James wrote:
    >
    >
    > To being mucked around by an obscure fault in their car,..then after
    > some time [or any length of time]finally found out what was jerking them
    > around ?
    >
    >
    > Was going to say sledging is banned,..but, that would cut the heart out
    > of this time-proven tradition here :-)


    One thing I reckon needs a "leg of Lamb send-off" [plse explain ? "well
    you ram a leg of Lamb roast up the departee's arse" "then set the dogs
    on him" ] :-)

    Is the genius who invented drum brakes. I mean come on boys,..how many
    synapses were firing that day ?

    The *only* tool that I can advise to use in that situation,...is a pair
    of stout vice-grips. You can grasp the return springs with the VGrips
    firmly then when the opportunity arises, pull the springs up and into
    the hole in the the brake-shoe or mechinism attached to that shoe.

    Jason.


  4. #24
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 04/10/13 9:41 AM, D Walford wrote:
    >
    >> My experience has been very much the opposite but that could be partly
    >> because I bought the cars we have now were bought new and older cars
    >> were bought second hand and had done a few kms.

    >
    > I still get to do a fair bit of work on people's cars these days even
    > though I'm in "retirement", and I can tell you there are a lot of "bugs"
    > out there with new'ish cars. Some of it the dealers and/or factory can't
    > even take care of.
    >
    > Either because they don't know how, or they simply aren't interested in
    > trying.
    >


    Such as?



  5. #25
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 04/10/13 9:31 PM, Clocky wrote:

    > Such as?


    Oil consumption problems on V6 Commodores is a big issue, but then you
    don't believe it's a problem or that dealers are telling owners that
    excessive consumption is "normal". Just like they told the original
    GenIII buyers it was "normal".





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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  6. #26
    Ext User(lindsay) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 4/10/2013 9:31 PM, Clocky wrote:
    > Noddy wrote:
    >> On 04/10/13 9:41 AM, D Walford wrote:
    >>
    >>> My experience has been very much the opposite but that could be partly
    >>> because I bought the cars we have now were bought new and older cars
    >>> were bought second hand and had done a few kms.

    >>
    >> I still get to do a fair bit of work on people's cars these days even
    >> though I'm in "retirement", and I can tell you there are a lot of "bugs"
    >> out there with new'ish cars. Some of it the dealers and/or factory can't
    >> even take care of.
    >>
    >> Either because they don't know how, or they simply aren't interested in
    >> trying.
    >>

    >
    > Such as?


    (pardon me for butting in?)

    The flat spot my BF falcon ute had is a prime example. Once they pluged
    the computer into it and no fault recorded, they didnt give a shit. They
    even used it to deliver tyres, and I caught 'em. When I asked WTF?,
    "thinking time" was his excuse.

    They had it for a week, the head "technician"/mechanic took it home (so
    he said) they couldnt find it, so I sold it with a weeks worth of
    warranty left.

    Bought a FG falcon ute, 3 years 6 months ago, no problems. Yet. I'll be
    selling it soon, tho.


    >
    >



  7. #27
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 04/10/13 6:20 PM, Jason James wrote:

    > Because the chances of CSand being spread thru-out the rest of the
    > casting, it sounds like it's a total write-off.


    Take Ozliar's comments with a grain of salt the size of Mt. Everest.
    You'd need a shitload of sand to block a radiator core, and more than
    you'd ever be likely to find in even the dirtiest of engine blocks.

    > I used to try and wash out all the debris from engine and head
    > castings,..after grinding work had been done,...*and* it was a waste of
    > time. Once garbage had been allowed to spread thru-out the casting,..you
    > never get it all.[speaking for myself !]


    It depends how you go about it largely.

    > Sure, the little allen keyed oil-drillings allowed force-gushing with
    > water,...you'd think it was all done ? Nay, after a 2nd strip-down
    > there was *always* some crap left in the crank oil-drillings, for example.


    If you're finding crap in the oil galleries then you're not cleaning the
    thing properly.

    Cleaning an engine block prior to assembly isn't a difficult task, but
    like anything there is always a wrong way to do it, and in this case
    doing it the wrong way can lead to an expensive outcome.

    One of the best tools you can use to clean oil galleries is a rifle bore
    cleaning kit. They're usually about 20-30 bucks or so, and come with a
    series of joinable shafts onto which screw wire or felt brushes which
    are perfect for removing any crap caught in the galleries. When used in
    conjunction with hot soapy water and compressed air you'll basically get
    things as clean as new and have no problems.




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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  8. #28
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:25:41 +1000, D Walford
    <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote:

    >On 04/10/2013 5:32 AM, Jeßus wrote:
    >> On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 20:35:16 +1000, D Walford
    >> <dwalford@internod.on.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 03/10/2013 6:29 PM, Jason James wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> To being mucked around by an obscure fault in their car,..then after
    >>>> some time [or any length of time]finally found out what was jerking them
    >>>> around ?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Had plenty of difficult to find faults in cars, one I remember was an
    >>> erratic idle on my VK Commodore,

    >>
    >> Not often you find a member of Monty Python under your bonnet.
    >>

    >It would explain why the car was a joke:-)


    :)

  9. #29
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:19:45 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    >Is the genius who invented drum brakes. I mean come on boys,..how many
    >synapses were firing that day ?


    Ahh, sweet memories of doing creek crossings in my old Landcruiser -
    then forgetting to ride the (drum) brakes to dry them out... makes for
    exciting driving when you next apply the brakes...

  10. #30
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:55:23 +1000, Noddy <me@wardengineering.com.au>
    wrote:

    <snip>
    >I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm all in favour of the technology and
    >enjoy the benefits of it like anyone else. But when we get to this
    >degree of complexity caused by something as *basic* as a blown stop lamp
    >fuse we *clearly* need to look at the way we do things.
    >
    >I have a 1969 V8 Falcon in my shed. It's a totally shithouse car to
    >drive compared to even the most basic car built within the last decade.
    >It gets woeful mileage, makes bugger all power for the size of it's
    >engine and has nothing in the way of creature comforts and safety
    >equipment other than an Am radio and a set of non inertia reel lap/sash
    >seat belts.
    >
    >But, it starts and runs every time you turn the key, you can carry a
    >complete replacement ignition system around in the glove box and you can
    >change it on the side of the road in under 15 minutes with nothing more
    >than a knife and fork. Personally I'd be *far* more comfortable in
    >getting in that and driving it to Brisbane than taking the Wife's 2006
    >Ford Territory which starts every third or fourth time you turn the key
    >and powers up the dash electrics every second time it manages to fire.


    Older vehicles are generally preferred where I live, for reasons
    you've outlined above, also because of distances to real mechanics
    with suitable equipment to work on modern cars. There's also the
    tightwad factor too... It's amazing to see the ingenuity some of the
    blokes come up with around here to keep cars going.

  11. #31
    Ext User(Xeno Lith) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 5/10/13 6:29 AM, Jeßus wrote:
    > On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:19:45 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Is the genius who invented drum brakes. I mean come on boys,..how many
    >> synapses were firing that day ?

    >
    > Ahh, sweet memories of doing creek crossings in my old Landcruiser -
    > then forgetting to ride the (drum) brakes to dry them out... makes for
    > exciting driving when you next apply the brakes...
    >

    You only forget once!

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    Xeno

  12. #32
    Ext User(Jeßus) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 06:45:29 +1000, Xeno Lith
    <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    >On 5/10/13 6:29 AM, Jeßus wrote:
    >> On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:19:45 +1000, Jason James <h6tgf22l@outlook.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Is the genius who invented drum brakes. I mean come on boys,..how many
    >>> synapses were firing that day ?

    >>
    >> Ahh, sweet memories of doing creek crossings in my old Landcruiser -
    >> then forgetting to ride the (drum) brakes to dry them out... makes for
    >> exciting driving when you next apply the brakes...
    >>

    >You only forget once!


    You wanna bet? LOL :)

  13. #33
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 04/10/13 9:31 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >
    >> Such as?

    >
    > Oil consumption problems on V6 Commodores is a big issue, but then you
    > don't believe it's a problem or that dealers are telling owners that
    > excessive consumption is "normal". Just like they told the original
    > GenIII buyers it was "normal".
    >


    Interesting that you should pick on this problem, one you have over
    exaggerated greatly to suit your end btw.


    Engines with oil consumption issues are as old as the ages, why do you
    put this forward as having to do anything a "fragility trade-off" due to
    modern technology?

    A cheap shot I would suggest, but into your own foot.

  14. #34
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:53:39 +1000, Noddy <me@wardengineering.com.au>
    wrote:

    >On 04/10/13 9:31 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >
    >> Such as?

    >
    >Oil consumption problems on V6 Commodores is a big issue, but then you
    >don't believe it's a problem or that dealers are telling owners that
    >excessive consumption is "normal". Just like they told the original
    >GenIII buyers it was "normal".
    >


    Just put a different dipstick in so it could carry enough oil to last
    between services...If you didn't service it on time it was your
    problem




    OzOne of the three twins

    I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

  15. #35
    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:28:13 +1000, Noddy <me@wardengineering.com.au>
    wrote:

    >On 04/10/13 6:20 PM, Jason James wrote:
    >
    >> Because the chances of CSand being spread thru-out the rest of the
    >> casting, it sounds like it's a total write-off.

    >
    >Take Ozliar's comments with a grain of salt the size of Mt. Everest.
    >You'd need a shitload of sand to block a radiator core, and more than
    >you'd ever be likely to find in even the dirtiest of engine blocks.


    Mmmmm.....So you didn't have any contact with other mechanics working
    on the P76 (there were plenty of them)

    Just for your information,
    this was my brothers P76 Exec V8...great tow car but unfortunately it
    would overheat regularly and ofter.
    Entire cooling system was flushed innumerable time but it just kept
    clogging radiators.
    They even pulled welsh plugs at one time.
    It was in to have a new engine put in it under warranty after they
    just gave up.
    Apprentice drove it backward off the rooftop carpark and wrote it off.
    The dealer offered my brother a new one but he declined and just took
    the money





    OzOne of the three twins

    I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

  16. #36
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <l2jr5t$7dp$2@dont-email.me>, xenolith@optusnet.com.au says...
    > Sledging? Banned? How would Noddy operate then? He might have to resort
    > to facts like "cars made of tin".... ROTFLMFAO
    >

    Yeah, everyone knows are made of bismuth.

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  17. #37
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <MPG.2cba2242685053d298ab0e@news.eternal-september.org>,
    alb_mandctdNOWMD@connexus.net.au says...
    > In article <l2jr5t$7dp$2@dont-email.me>, xenolith@optusnet.com.au says...
    > > Sledging? Banned? How would Noddy operate then? He might have to resort
    > > to facts like "cars made of tin".... ROTFLMFAO
    > >

    > Yeah, everyone knows are made of bismuth.
    >
    > Al
    >

    ...yone knows, they are..

    Knew: something you paddle

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  18. #38
    Ext User(F Murtz) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 05/10/13 1:19 PM, OzOne@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
    >
    >> Mmmmm.....So you didn't have any contact with other mechanics working
    >> on the P76 (there were plenty of them)

    >
    > There wasn't actually. They didn't sell many of them at all.
    >
    >> Just for your information,
    >> this was my brothers P76 Exec V8...

    >
    > Stop right there. I'm not interested in your imaginary bullshit.
    >
    >

    May be we could research when and where an apprentice backed one off a
    roof and figure out who he is.(the owner that is )

  19. #39
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 05/10/13 9:21 AM, Clocky wrote:

    > Interesting that you should pick on this problem, one you have over
    > exaggerated greatly to suit your end btw.


    How many times do you need to be told that I just quoted a passage of
    text pretty much verbatim? What is it about that that simply doesn't
    register with you?

    I didn't "exaggerate" a single thing, but relayed the story exactly as
    it appeared in the paper you silly ****, and as I told you at the time
    if you had an issue with it you needed to take it up with the columnist
    who printed the thing.

    I even gave you his ****ing email address :)

    > Engines with oil consumption issues are as old as the ages, why do you
    > put this forward as having to do anything a "fragility trade-off" due to
    > modern technology?


    Because high oil consumption in modern engines isn't common. It's a
    *fault*, and one that seems to get fobbed off pretty regularly if the
    reports are anything to go by.

    > A cheap shot I would suggest, but into your own foot.


    You know, your attitude here is one I find completely baffling. I don't
    have shares in Holden, I'm not responsible for the engines in question
    and I'm not likely to ever own a Commodore so I really don't care if
    they have an oil consumption issue or not. I feel sorry for the people
    who have bought one of the things and get no satisfaction from their
    dealer, but the issue is no skin off my helmet.

    I don't expect it is off yours either, but for some reason you have to
    go out of your way to make yourself look ridiculous in defending Holden
    and the engines in question by dismissing the claims of owners as "lies"
    when you have absolutely no idea if they are or not.

    It's *Bizarre*. It's like you take criticism of a product that you have
    nothing whatsoever to do with *personally*, and I have no idea why you
    do that.










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    Noddy.

  20. #40
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 05/10/13 6:25 AM, Jeßus wrote:

    > Older vehicles are generally preferred where I live, for reasons
    > you've outlined above, also because of distances to real mechanics
    > with suitable equipment to work on modern cars. There's also the
    > tightwad factor too... It's amazing to see the ingenuity some of the
    > blokes come up with around here to keep cars going.


    Modern cars aren't all they're cracked up to be.

    Ford Falcon/Territorys have become known for flaky ignition swithes
    (amongst other things), and Ford, in their infinite wisdom, decided to
    make the switch an integral part of the column.

    So, if you have one and the switch starts to pack up you have to replace
    the entire column at a new cost of about 1600 bucks, or a few hundred
    for a second hand one if you can find one.



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    Regards,
    Noddy.

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