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  1. #101
    Ext User(Blue Heeler) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    OzOne@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:

    Go **** yourself Ozliar.

    Given the lies you have told in the past, you get to supply a far, far
    better standard of proof before you have even the remote possibility of
    being believed.


  2. #102
    Ext User(Clocky) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?


    "jonz" <disco-v8@lotsafuel.com> wrote in message
    news:l2tbhv$l3$1@dont-email.me...
    > On 10/7/2013 2:18 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >> "jonz" <disco-v8@lotsafuel.com> wrote in message
    >> news:l2stpf$879$1@dont-email.me...
    >>> On 10/7/2013 2:52 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>> "Xeno Lith" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l2r98o$p3c$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>> On 6/10/13 7:25 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>>>> "jonz" <disco-v8@lotsafuel.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:l2qvnt$ehu$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>> On 10/6/2013 4:51 PM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>>>>>> "D Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:5250e34b$0$29900$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraw eb.com...
    >>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2013 10:30 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> "Noddy" <me@wardengineering.com.au> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:l2p6an$d5v$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 05/10/13 9:21 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting that you should pick on this problem, one you have
    >>>>>>>>>>>> over
    >>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated greatly to suit your end btw.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> How many times do you need to be told that I just quoted a
    >>>>>>>>>>> passage
    >>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>> text
    >>>>>>>>>>> pretty much verbatim? What is it about that that simply doesn't
    >>>>>>>>>>> register
    >>>>>>>>>>> with you?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I didn't "exaggerate" a single thing, but relayed the story
    >>>>>>>>>>> exactly
    >>>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>> appeared in the paper you silly ****,
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> You did not, you made exaggerated claim about 5-7L oil usage
    >>>>>>>>>> being
    >>>>>>>>>> deemed
    >>>>>>>>>> normal by Holden before revealing that the article did in fact
    >>>>>>>>>> never
    >>>>>>>>>> claim
    >>>>>>>>>> that. It was one extreme "customer complaint" example, which
    >>>>>>>>>> Holden
    >>>>>>>>>> would
    >>>>>>>>>> never deem as normal.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> It was what was claimed in the article, I also don't believe that
    >>>>>>>>> Holden
    >>>>>>>>> would say that it was normal but the person writing the letter
    >>>>>>>>> stated
    >>>>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>> they said it was.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Yep, that's what they said. The claim is BS, you know it, I know
    >>>>>>>> it.
    >>>>>>>> But
    >>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>> Noddy who is happy to write off an entire engine based on some
    >>>>>>>> anecdotal
    >>>>>>>> reports of oil usage.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> and as I told you at the time
    >>>>>>>>>>> if you had an issue with it you needed to take it up with the
    >>>>>>>>>>> columnist
    >>>>>>>>>>> who printed the thing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I even gave you his ****ing email address :)
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Did you?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I posted a link to the article as well.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Yes I remember reading it. What was in the article doesn't back up
    >>>>>>>> assertion
    >>>>>>>> put forward that Holden deem 5-7L of oil usage as normal.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> *One* anecdotal report claims that, and there have certainly been
    >>>>>>>> reports
    >>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>> oil consumption with the number of V6 Commodores on the road, but
    >>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>> present
    >>>>>>>> them as an example of an oil burning engine when most of them
    >>>>>>>> clearly
    >>>>>>>> aren't
    >>>>>>>> is quite disengenious IMO.
    >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >>>>>>> Shoulda bought a Magna.....Zero problems 8-)
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Plenty of oil burning V6 Magnas around these days so I wouldn't be so
    >>>>>> smug.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> But they aren't exactly "new", are they?
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Neither are VE's, and Jonz seems to be recommending them as a zero
    >>>> problem
    >>>> alternative.
    >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >>> I was? news to me..

    >>
    >> So what did you mean when you replied to the topic of supposed problems
    >> with
    >> some VE V6's with...
    >>
    >> "Shoulda bought a Magna.....Zero problems 8-)"

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
    > Only what was writ.......You searching for hidden meaning??......


    "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.





  3. #103
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:

    > "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.


    Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    went out of business.

    Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.

    Him and Jonz actually :)



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    Regards,
    Noddy.

  4. #104
    Ext User(jonz) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 10/8/2013 1:52 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >
    >> "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.

    >
    > Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    > went out of business.
    >
    > Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    > the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.
    >
    > Him and Jonz actually :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    Shit yeah, supercharged and twin turbo....Goes OK!
    > ~`
    >
    >



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  5. #105
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <j5r459dod2kqkv8sprdm72pqrdo27p56ii@4ax.com>, OzOne@Crackerbox-
    Palace.com says...
    > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 00:05:26 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Noddy wrote:
    > >> On 05/10/13 1:19 PM, OzOne@Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Mmmmm.....So you didn't have any contact with other mechanics working
    > >>> on the P76 (there were plenty of them)
    > >>
    > >> There wasn't actually. They didn't sell many of them at all.
    > >>
    > >>> Just for your information,
    > >>> this was my brothers P76 Exec V8...
    > >>
    > >> Stop right there. I'm not interested in your imaginary bullshit.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >May be we could research when and where an apprentice backed one off a
    > >roof and figure out who he is.(the owner that is )

    >
    > I'll make it easy.
    > Purnell motors Arncliffe.
    > Google maps will find it easy though they became a Saab dealer.
    > The building has had a showroom built onto what was the rooftop
    > parking and the driveway that went down at the back to the service
    > area is now covered.
    > When you look you'll see a roller door on the side street.
    > The car landed in the driveway that now seems to be roofed over.
    >
    > Good luck, have fun....remember to keep it all on file for my next
    > return.
    > BTW the car was blue with the usual P76 exec silver highlights.
    >
    > Should keep the yappy one and you busy for months.
    >
    > Then again Yappy will claim that it's all afabrication..that I spent
    > the last 48hrs driving around sydney looking for suitable business
    > premises to use for my story...and you..well you're just too ****ing
    > stupid to be bothered with.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > OzOne of the three twins
    >
    > I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
    >

    We used to do radio and/or stereo installs for the P76 and others ac'horse.
    Can't remember who the Leyland dealer was but the Jag dealer was Barrys Motors.
    The Fiat dealer was (biggg SP) Zenardo and Rodriguez IIRC :)

    Vaguely remember someone telling us about that.. similar story to yours.. but
    ****, who remembers the early '70s.

    Of course I left that shit job and went onto a construction site... well.. for
    the bucks to buy more beer.
    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  6. #106
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <l2vu9q$cqs$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    > On 10/8/2013 1:52 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > > On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:
    > >
    > >> "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.

    > >
    > > Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    > > went out of business.
    > >
    > > Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    > > the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.
    > >
    > > Him and Jonz actually :)

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    > Shit yeah, supercharged and twin turbo....Goes OK!


    Detroit 2 stroke V6 diesel in it? Love the sound they make :)

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  7. #107
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <l2tmus$b4e$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> Plenty of oil burning V6 Magnas around these days so I wouldn't be so smug.
    > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
    > >> Not mine.

    > >
    > > Sump is dry? You're too poor to top it up?

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > Shows how good it is.....No oil? who cares.... 8-)
    > >
    > > Al
    > >

    Tech tips:
    Earplugs and loud music fix the hydraulic tappets.
    Tint the windows. Sit low in the seat so none of your friends recognises you.

    Does your V6 have a low oil level sensor in the sump? The 4G63 in my crappy van
    does.

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  8. #108
    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    In article <52519a06$0$29884$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.c om>,
    notgonn@happen.com says...
    > Or Mitsubishi who were caught with drawers full of defects and recall
    > recommendations.
    >

    They were pretty good at fixing known issues even out of warranty.
    Strangely (and no I'm not calling you that) the seat belt issue of not
    fully retracting on the deceased old mans '92 Triton was farted about with some
    goop and I said to him, not good enough so got onto another dealer, not the one
    he bought it off and hey, this safety item was replaced.
    Similar problem on my '99 van although passable for rego.. they wanted $1000 a
    pair.
    It has new universal belts at less than $200.

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  9. #109
    Ext User(jonz) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 10/8/2013 3:45 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <l2tmus$b4e$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Plenty of oil burning V6 Magnas around these days so I wouldn't be so smug.
    >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
    >>>> Not mine.
    >>>
    >>> Sump is dry? You're too poor to top it up?

    >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >> Shows how good it is.....No oil? who cares.... 8-)
    >>>
    >>> Al
    >>>

    > Tech tips:
    > Earplugs and loud music fix the hydraulic tappets.
    > Tint the windows. Sit low in the seat so none of your friends recognises you.
    >
    > Does your V6 have a low oil level sensor in the sump? The 4G63 in my crappy van
    > does.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    No sensor....Dont know the engine history, but with 286000 ks on the
    odo, it is quiet and uses no oil.
    >
    > Al
    >



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  10. #110
    Ext User(jonz) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 10/8/2013 3:49 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <l2vu9q$cqs$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    >> On 10/8/2013 1:52 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>> On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.
    >>>
    >>> Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    >>> went out of business.
    >>>
    >>> Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    >>> the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.
    >>>
    >>> Him and Jonz actually :)

    >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    >> Shit yeah, supercharged and twin turbo....Goes OK!

    >
    > Detroit 2 stroke V6 diesel in it? Love the sound they make :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    Yep, different sounding magna, bit of a sleeper... 8-)
    >
    > Al
    >



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  11. #111
    Ext User(Xeno Lith) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 8/10/13 3:49 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <l2vu9q$cqs$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    >> On 10/8/2013 1:52 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>> On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.
    >>>
    >>> Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    >>> went out of business.
    >>>
    >>> Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    >>> the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.
    >>>
    >>> Him and Jonz actually :)

    >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    >> Shit yeah, supercharged and twin turbo....Goes OK!

    >
    > Detroit 2 stroke V6 diesel in it? Love the sound they make :)
    >
    > Al
    >

    More akin to a scream at full noise!

    --

    Xeno

  12. #112
    Ext User(Diesel Damo) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:55:23 AM UTC+10, Noddy wrote:

    > a set of non inertia reel lap/sash seat belts.


    I always liked the "strapped in" feel that those old seatbelts gave.

    > But, it starts and runs every time you turn the key, you can carry
    > a complete replacement ignition system around in the glove box and
    > you can change it on the side of the road in under 15 minutes with
    > nothing more than a knife and fork.


    LOL @ knife and fork! But yes, abilities like this are the number requirement for my commuting.

    > Personally I'd be *far* more comfortable in getting in that and
    > driving it to Brisbane than taking the Wife's 2006 Ford Territory
    > which starts every third or fourth time you turn the key and powers
    > up the dash electrics every second time it manages to fire.


    Yep. The last computer-controlled vehicle we owned was a Jackaroo. It had throttle troubles similar to the crank angle sensor issue, some days it would get too hot for no consistent reason, and on top of all of this the bullbar would fall off roughly every year because it couldn't stand the vibrations from our road. The bolts would stay put, but the bar would snap around the brackets. There was a rope kept in the car specifically for the purpose of tying it back on and limping home.

    This weekend I'll be doing a 6hr round trip to Gosford with the family in the Hilux, and I won't be worried one bit the whole way.

  13. #113
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 09/10/2013 8:04 AM, Diesel Damo wrote:
    > On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:55:23 AM UTC+10, Noddy wrote:
    >
    >> a set of non inertia reel lap/sash seat belts.

    >
    > I always liked the "strapped in" feel that those old seatbelts gave.
    >
    >> But, it starts and runs every time you turn the key, you can carry
    >> a complete replacement ignition system around in the glove box and
    >> you can change it on the side of the road in under 15 minutes with
    >> nothing more than a knife and fork.

    >
    > LOL @ knife and fork! But yes, abilities like this are the number requirement for my commuting.
    >
    >> Personally I'd be *far* more comfortable in getting in that and
    >> driving it to Brisbane than taking the Wife's 2006 Ford Territory
    >> which starts every third or fourth time you turn the key and powers
    >> up the dash electrics every second time it manages to fire.

    >
    > Yep. The last computer-controlled vehicle we owned was a Jackaroo. It had throttle troubles similar to the crank angle sensor issue, some days it would get too hot for no consistent reason, and on top of all of this the bullbar would fall off roughly every year because it couldn't stand the vibrations from our road. The bolts would stay put, but the bar would snap around the brackets. There was a rope kept in the car specifically for the purpose of tying it back on and limping home.
    >
    > This weekend I'll be doing a 6hr round trip to Gosford with the family in the Hilux, and I won't be worried one bit the whole way.
    >

    My Hilux engine is computer controlled and its just as if not more
    reliable than previous models.

    --
    Daryl

  14. #114
    Ext User(Diesel Damo) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:25:46 AM UTC+11, D Walford wrote:

    > My Hilux engine is computer controlled and its just as if not more
    > reliable than previous models.


    Until one of its many sensors begins to age poorly and then you won't be able to tell what is wrong based purely on behaviour because computers are, and always will be, "garbage in, garbage out".

  15. #115
    Ext User(jonz) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 10/8/2013 9:44 PM, Xeno Lith wrote:
    > On 8/10/13 3:49 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    >> In article <l2vu9q$cqs$1@dont-email.me>, disco-v8@lotsafuel.com says...
    >>> On 10/8/2013 1:52 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>>> On 08/10/13 9:41 AM, Clocky wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Shoulda bought a Magna....." is what you writ and not hidden.
    >>>>
    >>>> Nobody shoulda bought a Magna, and most people didn't which is why they
    >>>> went out of business.
    >>>>
    >>>> Oh, there was Ozliar who reckons he supercharged his, but then he'd be
    >>>> the only **** in the world who would think that was a worthwhile task.
    >>>>
    >>>> Him and Jonz actually :)
    >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    >>> Shit yeah, supercharged and twin turbo....Goes OK!

    >>
    >> Detroit 2 stroke V6 diesel in it? Love the sound they make :)
    >>
    >> Al
    >>

    > More akin to a scream at full noise!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````
    Im currently driving a `78 Transtar tipper, 8v71t detroit.......Scream
    it does. The old thing turns heads for sure... 8-)
    >



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  16. #116
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 09/10/13 8:04 AM, Diesel Damo wrote:

    > I always liked the "strapped in" feel that those old seatbelts gave.


    The Ford belts of those days are a little different than some in that
    they have two adjustments on the lap portion of the belt. The "regular"
    one on the short buckle belt, and another one just like it on the lap
    portion of the main belt.

    By adjusting them both you can get yourself locked in pretty German
    (Schnizentight) and position the buckle exactly on your hip as they were
    supposed to be. The problem is that if I do that I can't learn forward
    to reach the headlight or wiper switches :)

    > LOL @ knife and fork! But yes, abilities like this are the number requirement for my commuting.


    I'm not so bad as I don't do lots of miles these days, but I feel more
    comfortable driving the old bomb than I do anything recent.

    > Yep. The last computer-controlled vehicle we owned was a Jackaroo. It had throttle troubles similar to the crank angle sensor issue, some days it would get too hot for no consistent reason, and on top of all of this the bullbar would fall off roughly every year because it couldn't stand the vibrations from our road. The bolts would stay put, but the bar would snap around the brackets. There was a rope kept in the car specifically for the purpose of tying it back on and limping home.
    > This weekend I'll be doing a 6hr round trip to Gosford with the family in the Hilux, and I won't be worried one bit the whole way.


    That's the thing isn't it. Regardless of how nice modern vehicles have
    become, the amount of confidence they instil in people isn't *quite* the
    same. I'd have no qualms about going anywhere in a new car today
    provided I was not going anywhere that would be likely to see me perish
    if the thing were to suddenly stop.

    If I was heading out into the wilderness the only car I'd take would be
    something older and more reliable :)


    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

  17. #117
    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 09/10/13 10:25 AM, D Walford wrote:

    > My Hilux engine is computer controlled and its just as if not more
    > reliable than previous models.


    So far anyway :)



    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

  18. #118
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 09/10/2013 12:59 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 09/10/13 10:25 AM, D Walford wrote:
    >
    >> My Hilux engine is computer controlled and its just as if not more
    >> reliable than previous models.

    >
    > So far anyway :)
    >
    >
    >

    Since I do bugger all kms in it any more unless my accountant advises me
    otherwise I will probably keep it for a few more years after the lease
    expires next May so I will get to find out how well it lasts.
    I know of plenty of EFI Toyota engines that are more than 20yrs old that
    never give any trouble so no reason to think that mine will become
    problematic any time soon.

    --
    Daryl

  19. #119
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On 09/10/2013 12:24 PM, Diesel Damo wrote:
    > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:25:46 AM UTC+11, D Walford wrote:
    >
    >> My Hilux engine is computer controlled and its just as if not more
    >> reliable than previous models.

    >
    > Until one of its many sensors begins to age poorly and then you won't be able to tell what is wrong based purely on behaviour because computers are, and always will be, "garbage in, garbage out".
    >

    Its done over 100,000kms and no sign of any sensor problems.
    The 79 Landcruiser I used to own had a mechanical in line injection pump
    and the governor diaphragm got a hole in it making the engine rev
    erratically, it would have been very difficult to repair on the side of
    the road even if by chance I had a spare so in my experience an old car
    is more likely to give trouble than a new one and they can be just as
    difficult to fix.

    --
    Daryl

  20. #120
    Ext User(Diesel Damo) Guest

    Re: Anyone able to contribute ?

    On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:13:31 PM UTC+11, D Walford wrote:

    > Its done over 100,000kms and no sign of any sensor problems.


    I didn't mean to imply you're driving some overly complex heap of shit
    - far from it. I'm just saying that for my money (and my driving
    scenarios), I'll take the simple mechanics over the sensitive computer
    any day. And I have tried both on numerous occasions over a lot of
    kays.

    > The 79 Landcruiser I used to own had a mechanical in line injection
    > pump and the governor diaphragm got a hole in it making the engine
    > rev erratically,


    Which I bet was diagnosable by following a logical trail of simple
    physics. And how many kays did it have on it when this happened?

    My Hilux packed in a piston after 516,000km. Even though it sounded
    like hell, was burning half engine oil and half diesel, I was able to
    drive it home. A computer would have probably shut everything down
    including the ash trays.

    > it would have been very difficult to repair on the side of the road
    > even if by chance I had a spare


    Yep, I'm not saying I haven't been stuck either. I have been. But it
    took a near ELE to do it.

    > so in my experience an old car is more likely to give trouble than a
    > new one


    In that one scenario, sure. Would you say that that reflects your
    entire driving experience on average though?

    > and they can be just as difficult to fix.


    My gripe is the difficulty in diagnosing the problem. IMHO the
    computer controlled car has killed off the skill/art of diagnosis in
    the automotive mechanical trade. As long as they can read the fault
    code and then machine your rotors they're happy.

    My Jackaroo kept getting knocked back from various mechanics when it
    would completely die (back to idle) on a hill, all because there was
    no fault code. No fault code = no problem apparently.

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