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    Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.

    PhilD

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    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    > Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    > raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.


    I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    pushed down behind it.

    A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    the same thing.


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    Noddy.

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    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/2013 1:25 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    >> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    >> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.

    >
    > I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    > damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    > pushed down behind it.
    >
    > A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    > fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    > for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    > fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    > do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    > that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    > the same thing.
    >
    >

    I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    centres that are very heavily fortified?
    As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    privacy.

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    Daryl

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    Ext User(Noddy) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/13 2:08 PM, D Walford wrote:

    > I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    > centres that are very heavily fortified?


    I don't know, but there's *lots* of commercial and industrial complexes
    that have secure premises, and some of them are quite severe. I reckon
    you'd need a tank to get through the gate at the Mobil refinery in
    Yarraville, and I don't see the coppers or State Government complaining
    about that.

    > As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    > deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    > privacy.


    I think so as well.



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    Noddy.

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    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On Friday,

    > As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    >
    > deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    >
    > privacy.



    Yes,..it would be better, if a statute was enacted that allows such action,but only by the pen of a judge. A warrant IOWs stipulating its OK, but on the grounds that there is a reasonable expectation of criminal activity. I agree that leaving it as something which can be done at the whim of law officers, could end up being the thin edge of a wedge underneath civil-liberties.


    Jason

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    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    In article <52576bcd$0$11106$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    dwalford@internode.on.net says...
    > On 11/10/2013 1:25 PM, Noddy wrote:
    > > On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    > >> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    > >> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.

    > >
    > > I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    > > damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    > > pushed down behind it.
    > >
    > > A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    > > fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    > > for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    > > fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    > > do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    > > that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    > > the same thing.
    > >
    > >

    > I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    > centres that are very heavily fortified?
    > As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    > deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    > privacy.
    >
    >

    Why aren't they targeting men in suits?
    Why aren't they targeting telemarketing and other scammers?
    Why aren't they targeting punks who steal old ladies handbags?
    Why aren't they targeting ram raiders and bottle shop bandits?
    Why aren't they targeting each other with tasers to give us all a laugh?

    IMHO if one of those evil mean bikies saw an old lady being robbed he would grab
    the punk doing it.. whilst most mere mortals would look on shit scared and do
    nothing.
    If the silly bastards stopped beating each other and shooting each other in
    public it would do wonders for their image. United they stand. The TV media beat
    up over the past couple of years has been full on.

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

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    Ext User(jonz) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 10/11/2013 4:57 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <52576bcd$0$11106$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    > dwalford@internode.on.net says...
    >> On 11/10/2013 1:25 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>> On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    >>>> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    >>>> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.
    >>>
    >>> I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    >>> damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    >>> pushed down behind it.
    >>>
    >>> A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    >>> fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    >>> for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    >>> fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    >>> do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    >>> that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    >>> the same thing.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    >> centres that are very heavily fortified?
    >> As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    >> deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    >> privacy.
    >>
    >>

    > Why aren't they targeting men in suits?
    > Why aren't they targeting telemarketing and other scammers?
    > Why aren't they targeting punks who steal old ladies handbags?
    > Why aren't they targeting ram raiders and bottle shop bandits?
    > Why aren't they targeting each other with tasers to give us all a laugh?
    >
    > IMHO if one of those evil mean bikies saw an old lady being robbed he would grab
    > the punk doing it.. whilst most mere mortals would look on shit scared and do
    > nothing.
    > If the silly bastards stopped beating each other and shooting each other in
    > public it would do wonders for their image. United they stand. The TV media beat
    > up over the past couple of years has been full on.

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    Yairs...........
    >
    > Al
    >



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    Ext User(atec77) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/2013 2:32 PM, Jason James wrote:
    > On Friday,
    >
    >> As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    >>
    >> deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    >>
    >> privacy.

    >
    >
    > Yes,..it would be better, if a statute was enacted that allows such action, but only by the pen of a judge. A warrant IOWs stipulating its OK, but on the grounds that there is a reasonable expectation of criminal activity. I agree that leaving it as something which can be done at the whim of law officers, could end up being the thin edge of a wedge underneath civil-liberties.
    >
    >
    > Jason
    >

    Certainly some changes are needed , a simple alagation of drugs and a jp
    can sign your rights away ( with certain stipulation)


    considering how smart some people are the legislation should ensure a
    well seasoned judge should be making those decisions reining in the big
    blue gang

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  9. #9
    Ext User(atec77) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/2013 3:57 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <52576bcd$0$11106$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    > dwalford@internode.on.net says...
    >> On 11/10/2013 1:25 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>> On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    >>>> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    >>>> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.
    >>>
    >>> I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    >>> damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    >>> pushed down behind it.
    >>>
    >>> A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    >>> fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    >>> for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    >>> fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    >>> do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    >>> that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    >>> the same thing.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    >> centres that are very heavily fortified?
    >> As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    >> deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    >> privacy.
    >>
    >>

    > Why aren't they targeting men in suits?
    > Why aren't they targeting telemarketing and other scammers?
    > Why aren't they targeting punks who steal old ladies handbags?
    > Why aren't they targeting ram raiders and bottle shop bandits?
    > Why aren't they targeting each other with tasers to give us all a laugh?
    >
    > IMHO if one of those evil mean bikies saw an old lady being robbed he would grab
    > the punk doing it.. whilst most mere mortals would look on shit scared and do
    > nothing.
    > If the silly bastards stopped beating each other and shooting each other in
    > public it would do wonders for their image. United they stand. The TV media beat
    > up over the past couple of years has been full on.
    >
    > Al
    >

    this one

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    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On 11/10/2013 4:57 PM, Albm&ctd wrote:
    > In article <52576bcd$0$11106$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    > dwalford@internode.on.net says...
    >> On 11/10/2013 1:25 PM, Noddy wrote:
    >>> On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    >>>> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    >>>> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.
    >>>
    >>> I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    >>> damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    >>> pushed down behind it.
    >>>
    >>> A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    >>> fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    >>> for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    >>> fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    >>> do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    >>> that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    >>> the same thing.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I wonder how the new law gets around places like banks and computer
    >> centres that are very heavily fortified?
    >> As much as I think the criminal bikie gangs are getting what they
    >> deserve we need to be concerned about laws that invade ordinary peoples
    >> privacy.
    >>
    >>

    > Why aren't they targeting men in suits?


    They do, they are a bit more subtle though.

    > Why aren't they targeting telemarketing and other scammers?


    Excellent idea.

    > Why aren't they targeting punks who steal old ladies handbags?


    They do.

    > Why aren't they targeting ram raiders and bottle shop bandits?


    They do.

    > Why aren't they targeting each other with tasers to give us all a laugh?


    Another good idea:-)
    >
    > IMHO if one of those evil mean bikies saw an old lady being robbed he would grab
    > the punk doing it.. whilst most mere mortals would look on shit scared and do
    > nothing.


    Most bikie gang members are cowards who are only brave when they hang
    around in big armed groups so very unlikely.

    > If the silnly bastards stopped beating each other and shooting each other in
    > public it would do wonders for their image. United they stand. The TV media beat
    > up over the past couple of years has been full on.


    It has been a beat up but don't forget they are targeted because they
    are drugs dealers and criminals, not because they ride motorcycles.


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    Ext User(Albm&ctd) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    In article <5257afbd$0$29873$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.c om>,
    dwalford@internode.on.net says...
    > It has been a beat up but don't forget they are targeted because they
    > are drugs dealers and criminals, not because they ride motorcycles.
    >

    I was at the Tweed buying fish and in the shop was a pretty harmless looking
    Fink in colours, bike outside. Does that make me an associate? Maybe they were
    speshul fish he was buying with droogs stashed in 'em.

    Al
    --
    I don't take sides.
    It's more fun to insult everyone.

  12. #12
    Ext User(F Murtz) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    Noddy wrote:
    > On 11/10/13 1:07 AM, replytogrouponly@aussie.com wrote:
    >> Did you see what those horrible Police did to that XY in the bikie
    >> raids? Numberplate read GTHO03.

    >
    > I only saw it briefly on the news, but it didn't look like the car got
    > damaged. I thought it was back further from the gate and the gate was
    > pushed down behind it.
    >
    > A more worrying thing in my opinion was the passing of laws against the
    > fortification of a property. I know they're aimed at making life tough
    > for bikie gangs, but I've got no problem with anyone building high
    > fences and mounting lots of security cameras if that's what they want to
    > do, and fail to see how the law distinguishes between bikie gangs ding
    > that, and any private citizen or business (which many do) doing exactly
    > the same thing.
    >
    >

    I do not think it is for security fences and cameras I think it is to
    stop individuals building impregnable buildings that they can not smash
    to get in.

  13. #13
    Ext User(Jason James) Guest

    Re: Someone in the Vic Police must be made to pay

    On Friday, October>
    > Certainly some changes are needed , a simple alagation of drugs and a jp
    >
    > can sign your rights away ( with certain stipulation)


    > considering how smart some people are the legislation should ensure a
    >
    > well seasoned judge should be making those decisions reining in the big
    >
    > blue gang


    Absolutely. A JP could be anyone,...even thee or me could become a JP :-)

    Jason

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