Re: A Question for Jeremy or Shane

[Neil Fisher]

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:35:44 +1000, OzOne <>, after considering some
belly-button fluf, wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:01:05 GMT, NeilFisher@_NOSPAM_magnecor.com.au
>(Neil Fisher) scribbled thusly:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:41:33 +1000, OzOne <>, after considering some
>>belly-button fluf, wrote:
>>[snip]
>>
>>>Or not having the ability to coordinate sufficiently to even sit the
>>>test in a manual so we have a bunch of Unkos driving around....or
>>>alternately, those who start on manuals think they're an F1 driver and
>>>crash as a result.
>>
>>Yes, it could easily go either way. I am leaning towards the former
>>rather than the latter myself, but I guess we'll never know if Rob has
>>his way.
>
>You can't blame Rob.

Spoilsport! ;-)

>It's a system that comes to conclusions about what causes accidents
>without ALL the information

Well, I don't know how we'd get ALL the information, but anyway...
your point is well made (at least to me). Besides, I would have
thought that such information was available anyway, with a little
digging - providing it's only used for statistical purposes, there's
no privacy concerns.

>>
>>>
>>>I'd have thought in this age of consideration of restricting young
>>>drivers , that this would be a valid statistic.
>>
>>Especially considering some of the draconian restrictions being
>>suggested for people who can go to war, vote, drink etc etc.
>
>Yep.
>The system sees all young drivers as exactly the same and is looking
>to restrict all of them, again without all the information.
>My 18YO has been flying planes for 2 years, and puts the same
>concentration and thought into his driving as he does flying, yet, to
>the system he's just a "young driver".

Even ignoring such well trained people as your son, it's rather
concerning that some 5% or so of *any* "group" can have such an impact
on the other 95%.

Neil
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[OzOne]

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:18:43 GMT, NeilFisher@_NOSPAM_magnecor.com.au
(Neil Fisher) scribbled thusly:


>>It's a system that comes to conclusions about what causes accidents
>>without ALL the information
>
>Well, I don't know how we'd get ALL the information, but anyway...
>your point is well made (at least to me). Besides, I would have
>thought that such information was available anyway, with a little
>digging - providing it's only used for statistical purposes, there's
>no privacy concerns.

Yep.

>

>>The system sees all young drivers as exactly the same and is looking
>>to restrict all of them, again without all the information.
>>My 18YO has been flying planes for 2 years, and puts the same
>>concentration and thought into his driving as he does flying, yet, to
>>the system he's just a "young driver".
>
>Even ignoring such well trained people as your son, it's rather
>concerning that some 5% or so of *any* "group" can have such an impact
>on the other 95%.

I rather think it's more than 5%, there are some shocking young
drivers out there, but even so, they are the ones that should be
identified and retrained, not just punished.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

[OzOne]

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:01:05 GMT, NeilFisher@_NOSPAM_magnecor.com.au
(Neil Fisher) scribbled thusly:

>On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:41:33 +1000, OzOne <>, after considering some
>belly-button fluf, wrote:
>[snip]
>
>>Or not having the ability to coordinate sufficiently to even sit the
>>test in a manual so we have a bunch of Unkos driving around....or
>>alternately, those who start on manuals think they're an F1 driver and
>>crash as a result.
>
>Yes, it could easily go either way. I am leaning towards the former
>rather than the latter myself, but I guess we'll never know if Rob has
>his way.

You can't blame Rob.
It's a system that comes to conclusions about what causes accidents
without ALL the information
>
>>
>>I'd have thought in this age of consideration of restricting young
>>drivers , that this would be a valid statistic.
>
>Especially considering some of the draconian restrictions being
>suggested for people who can go to war, vote, drink etc etc.

Yep.
The system sees all young drivers as exactly the same and is looking
to restrict all of them, again without all the information.
My 18YO has been flying planes for 2 years, and puts the same
concentration and thought into his driving as he does flying, yet, to
the system he's just a "young driver".
>
>Neil
>---
>Neil Fisher / Bob Young
>Thundercords
>personal opinion unless otherwise noted.
>Looking for spark plug leads?
>Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.