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  1. #1
    Keith Gow Guest

    Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"

    SPOILERS

    It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.

    It was hard enough saying goodbye to "Angel" this year or "Buffy" last
    year. This seems like a similarly significant loss to me. As "Buffy"
    created some of the great moments of dramatic television, I think
    "Friends" has given television some of its great comic half hours. It
    was a traditional three-camera, live-audience sitcom, which television
    is moving away from. But it was also a true ensemble, which sitcoms
    rarely achieve. Which television series rarely achieve, really. It's
    much easier to sell a show with a lead.

    Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.

    The whole year has been building to this episode, of course. This is
    one reason why a tenth and final season was necessary - allowing the
    creators and writers and actors the time to say goodbye properly. So
    while the first half of the season was very patchy (and that's putting
    it nicely), the second half of the season was a lot stronger. And
    while none of the final episodes stand out as classics on their own,
    the weight of the collection has the show going out in style.

    We have three major stories in this final hour - the arrival of Monica
    and Chandler's child by way of surrogate mother Erica, Joey and
    Chandler saying goodbye to their old lives and the resolution of the
    Ross and Rachel saga. Interweaved through the whole hour, the stories
    complement and support each other - even though we know where we are
    going to end up.

    Well, almost.

    Kaufman and Crane know exactly when to play to and against our
    expectations. The fact that this is "The Last One" ups the tension a
    lot more. The race against time for Ross to stop Rachel from leaving
    for Paris is a fun chase - and certainly harkens back to other wacky
    adventures for the gang. Part of me would have wished we weren't
    bogged down with such a broad story, but in this case, it's the
    resolution that counts. When you can't think of anyway it can get
    better or worse, it inevitably does.

    Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    effective piece.

    I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.

    The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    the show began ten years ago.

    "M*A*S*H" had a huge, eventful finale. "Seinfeld" gave the characters
    a reality check. "Mad About You" went off the rails. "Cheers" stayed
    open. "Frasier," well, I still haven't seen the last two seasons of
    "Frasier"…

    "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.

    -- Keith Gow --

    http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/


  2. #2
    Objectionable Fred Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)


    "Keith Gow" <kwgow@vicnet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:41a1bee2.1196812@News.Individual.NET...
    > Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"
    >
    > SPOILERS
    >
    > It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    > way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.
    >
    > It was hard enough saying goodbye to "Angel" this year or "Buffy" last
    > year. This seems like a similarly significant loss to me. As "Buffy"
    > created some of the great moments of dramatic television, I think
    > "Friends" has given television some of its great comic half hours. It
    > was a traditional three-camera, live-audience sitcom, which television
    > is moving away from. But it was also a true ensemble, which sitcoms
    > rarely achieve. Which television series rarely achieve, really. It's
    > much easier to sell a show with a lead.
    >
    > Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    > throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    > mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    > 30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    > just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.
    >
    > The whole year has been building to this episode, of course. This is
    > one reason why a tenth and final season was necessary - allowing the
    > creators and writers and actors the time to say goodbye properly. So
    > while the first half of the season was very patchy (and that's putting
    > it nicely), the second half of the season was a lot stronger. And
    > while none of the final episodes stand out as classics on their own,
    > the weight of the collection has the show going out in style.
    >
    > We have three major stories in this final hour - the arrival of Monica
    > and Chandler's child by way of surrogate mother Erica, Joey and
    > Chandler saying goodbye to their old lives and the resolution of the
    > Ross and Rachel saga. Interweaved through the whole hour, the stories
    > complement and support each other - even though we know where we are
    > going to end up.
    >
    > Well, almost.
    >
    > Kaufman and Crane know exactly when to play to and against our
    > expectations. The fact that this is "The Last One" ups the tension a
    > lot more. The race against time for Ross to stop Rachel from leaving
    > for Paris is a fun chase - and certainly harkens back to other wacky
    > adventures for the gang. Part of me would have wished we weren't
    > bogged down with such a broad story, but in this case, it's the
    > resolution that counts. When you can't think of anyway it can get
    > better or worse, it inevitably does.
    >
    > Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    > has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    > housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    > can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    > table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    > It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    > of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    > effective piece.
    >
    > I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    > children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    > climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    > seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    > have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    > while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    > pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    > Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    > content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.
    >
    > The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    > moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    > and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    > old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    > the show began ten years ago.
    >
    > "M*A*S*H" had a huge, eventful finale. "Seinfeld" gave the characters
    > a reality check. "Mad About You" went off the rails. "Cheers" stayed
    > open. "Frasier," well, I still haven't seen the last two seasons of
    > "Frasier".
    >
    > "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    > satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.
    >
    > -- Keith Gow --
    >
    > http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/
    >


    Laughed and cried while watching Friends???
    You need to get out a bit more...



  3. #3
    Mamma Mia Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)


    "Keith Gow" <kwgow@vicnet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:41a1bee2.1196812@News.Individual.NET...
    > Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last


    snip

    >
    > "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    > satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.
    >
    > -- Keith Gow --
    >
    > http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/
    >


    are you kidding? i thought it was pox. unlike the SATC finale, they slowed
    the pace down to schmaltzy, which was not the usual. I know joey is getting
    another show, but within the episode he had no closure. he got poultry. so
    what. he didnt move on or grow or have anything good happen. SATC was SO
    much better

    christine



  4. #4
    ferret Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    Keith Gow wrote:
    > Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"
    >
    > SPOILERS
    >
    > It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    > way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.
    >
    > It was hard enough saying goodbye to "Angel" this year or "Buffy" last
    > year. This seems like a similarly significant loss to me. As "Buffy"
    > created some of the great moments of dramatic television, I think
    > "Friends" has given television some of its great comic half hours. It
    > was a traditional three-camera, live-audience sitcom, which television
    > is moving away from. But it was also a true ensemble, which sitcoms
    > rarely achieve. Which television series rarely achieve, really. It's
    > much easier to sell a show with a lead.
    >
    > Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    > throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    > mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    > 30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    > just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.
    >
    > The whole year has been building to this episode, of course. This is
    > one reason why a tenth and final season was necessary - allowing the
    > creators and writers and actors the time to say goodbye properly. So
    > while the first half of the season was very patchy (and that's putting
    > it nicely), the second half of the season was a lot stronger. And
    > while none of the final episodes stand out as classics on their own,
    > the weight of the collection has the show going out in style.
    >
    > We have three major stories in this final hour - the arrival of Monica
    > and Chandler's child by way of surrogate mother Erica, Joey and
    > Chandler saying goodbye to their old lives and the resolution of the
    > Ross and Rachel saga. Interweaved through the whole hour, the stories
    > complement and support each other - even though we know where we are
    > going to end up.
    >
    > Well, almost.
    >
    > Kaufman and Crane know exactly when to play to and against our
    > expectations. The fact that this is "The Last One" ups the tension a
    > lot more. The race against time for Ross to stop Rachel from leaving
    > for Paris is a fun chase - and certainly harkens back to other wacky
    > adventures for the gang. Part of me would have wished we weren't
    > bogged down with such a broad story, but in this case, it's the
    > resolution that counts. When you can't think of anyway it can get
    > better or worse, it inevitably does.
    >
    > Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    > has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    > housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    > can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    > table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    > It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    > of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    > effective piece.
    >
    > I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    > children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    > climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    > seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    > have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    > while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    > pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    > Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    > content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.
    >
    > The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    > moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    > and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    > old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    > the show began ten years ago.
    >
    > "M*A*S*H" had a huge, eventful finale. "Seinfeld" gave the characters
    > a reality check. "Mad About You" went off the rails. "Cheers" stayed
    > open. "Frasier," well, I still haven't seen the last two seasons of
    > "Frasier"…
    >
    > "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    > satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.
    >
    > -- Keith Gow --
    >
    > http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/
    >


    What pissed me orf was that stupid fricking knob dreary.
    The first half hour you saw and heard more of him than
    the show their showing.

  5. #5
    Keith Gow Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:41:55 +1100, "Mamma Mia" <abba@sweden.com>
    waxed lyrical:

    >
    >"Keith Gow" <kwgow@vicnet.net.au> wrote in message
    >news:41a1bee2.1196812@News.Individual.NET...
    >> Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last

    >
    >snip
    >
    >>
    >> "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    >> satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.
    >>
    >> -- Keith Gow --
    >>
    >> http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/
    >>

    >
    >are you kidding? i thought it was pox. unlike the SATC finale, they slowed
    >the pace down to schmaltzy, which was not the usual. I know joey is getting
    >another show, but within the episode he had no closure. he got poultry. so
    >what. he didnt move on or grow or have anything good happen. SATC was SO
    >much better


    Maybe. Depends on what you're attached to more or what you expect from
    each show.

    -- Keith Gow --

    http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/


  6. #6
    Ian Galbraith Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:28:13 GMT, kwgow@vicnet.net.au (Keith Gow)
    wrote:

    >Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"


    >SPOILERS


    >It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    >way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.


    I liked the conclusion because I like the characters but overall the
    episode was pretty poor. But then I haven't thought Friends has been
    much good for years now.

    [snip]

    >Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    >throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    >mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    >30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    >just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.


    It did suit the show.

    [snip]

    >Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    >has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    >housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    >can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    >table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    >It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    >of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    >effective piece.


    Yup this was the best part of the episode. Who'd have thought Friends
    could be metaphorical.

    >I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    >children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    >climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    >seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    >have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    >while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    >pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    >Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    >content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.


    Watching the clip show I couldn't believe it was S4 that they got
    together, I thought it was later.

    >The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    >moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    >and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    >old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    >the show began ten years ago.


    Yep.

    [snip]



  7. #7
    Keith Gow Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:01:28 +1100, Ian Galbraith <me@privacy.net>
    waxed lyrical:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:28:13 GMT, kwgow@vicnet.net.au (Keith Gow)
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"

    >
    >>SPOILERS

    >
    >>It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    >>way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.

    >
    >I liked the conclusion because I like the characters but overall the
    >episode was pretty poor. But then I haven't thought Friends has been
    >much good for years now.
    >


    Well I've still enjoyed it. This last season is easily the worst, but
    each year has had its ups and downs.

    >[snip]
    >
    >>Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    >>throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    >>mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    >>30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    >>just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.

    >
    >It did suit the show.
    >


    If it had been something else - a very special episode or and now for
    something completely different - people would have complained. Look at
    the Seinfeld finale - people were ready to tear Jerry apart.

    >[snip]
    >
    >>Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    >>has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    >>housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    >>can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    >>table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    >>It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    >>of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    >>effective piece.

    >
    >Yup this was the best part of the episode. Who'd have thought Friends
    >could be metaphorical.
    >


    They've done similar things in the past but not quite so well.

    >>I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    >>children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    >>climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    >>seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    >>have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    >>while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    >>pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    >>Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    >>content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.

    >
    >Watching the clip show I couldn't believe it was S4 that they got
    >together, I thought it was later.
    >


    Yeah, it's pretty amazing it happened so long ago and lasted so long!

    >>The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    >>moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    >>and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    >>old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    >>the show began ten years ago.

    >
    >Yep.


    I always expected it would end at Central Perk, but this ending was
    better.

    -- Keith Gow --

    http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/


  8. #8
    Kevin V. Russell Guest

    Re: Friends - The Last One (Spoilers)

    You are forgetting the funniest ever final episode, Newhart.

    Nothing I have seen before or since comes close to this masterpiece.

    I have been waiting for the DVD for years.

    "Keith Gow" <kwgow@vicnet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:41a1bee2.1196812@News.Individual.NET...
    > Friends, Season 10, Episodes 17 & 18, "The Last One, Parts 1 & 2"
    >
    > SPOILERS
    >
    > It made me laugh, it made me cry. And in the words of Rachel Green,
    > way back in Season Two, that's what I call closure.
    >
    > It was hard enough saying goodbye to "Angel" this year or "Buffy" last
    > year. This seems like a similarly significant loss to me. As "Buffy"
    > created some of the great moments of dramatic television, I think
    > "Friends" has given television some of its great comic half hours. It
    > was a traditional three-camera, live-audience sitcom, which television
    > is moving away from. But it was also a true ensemble, which sitcoms
    > rarely achieve. Which television series rarely achieve, really. It's
    > much easier to sell a show with a lead.
    >
    > Marta Kaufman and David Crane have created many event episodes
    > throughout the series' run - many weddings, occasionally births but
    > mostly just significant moments throughout a group of friends' 20s and
    > 30s. "The Last One" demands a significant event, but often plays out
    > just like another episode in the canon. I think the balance works.
    >
    > The whole year has been building to this episode, of course. This is
    > one reason why a tenth and final season was necessary - allowing the
    > creators and writers and actors the time to say goodbye properly. So
    > while the first half of the season was very patchy (and that's putting
    > it nicely), the second half of the season was a lot stronger. And
    > while none of the final episodes stand out as classics on their own,
    > the weight of the collection has the show going out in style.
    >
    > We have three major stories in this final hour - the arrival of Monica
    > and Chandler's child by way of surrogate mother Erica, Joey and
    > Chandler saying goodbye to their old lives and the resolution of the
    > Ross and Rachel saga. Interweaved through the whole hour, the stories
    > complement and support each other - even though we know where we are
    > going to end up.
    >
    > Well, almost.
    >
    > Kaufman and Crane know exactly when to play to and against our
    > expectations. The fact that this is "The Last One" ups the tension a
    > lot more. The race against time for Ross to stop Rachel from leaving
    > for Paris is a fun chase - and certainly harkens back to other wacky
    > adventures for the gang. Part of me would have wished we weren't
    > bogged down with such a broad story, but in this case, it's the
    > resolution that counts. When you can't think of anyway it can get
    > better or worse, it inevitably does.
    >
    > Joey and Chandler, surprisingly, are allowed the quieter story. Joey
    > has bought Monica and Chandler a new chick and a duck as a
    > housewarming gift (the others were taken off to a farm where people
    > can't visit, Joey explains) - but they get stuck inside the foosball
    > table and the only way to get the birds out is to destory the table.
    > It's a nice metaphor for the change in their lives. It's a sacrifice
    > of their immediate friendship, but for long term goals. A very
    > effective piece.
    >
    > I suppose Monica and Chandler finally having a child - and, surprise,
    > children - is the biggest event in this final hour. It's an emotional
    > climax for these two characters - who got together on a whim six
    > seasons ago, fulfilling Monica's life-long dreams to be married and
    > have kids. Ironically, actress Courtney Cox Arquette was pregnant
    > while this final episode was filmed, so while carrying a bit of her
    > pregnancy weight here, it becomes a coincidental reference to the Fat
    > Monica of her youth. Control freak and perpetually skinny Monica is so
    > content with her life now that she's happy to have a few extra pounds.
    >
    > The final scene, with all six friends in Monica's empty apartment, is
    > moving and hilarious. There's a few great lines about the apartment
    > and one last symbol of their friendship as the six walk out of their
    > old lives and out of ours. Off to get a cup of coffee - which is where
    > the show began ten years ago.
    >
    > "M*A*S*H" had a huge, eventful finale. "Seinfeld" gave the characters
    > a reality check. "Mad About You" went off the rails. "Cheers" stayed
    > open. "Frasier," well, I still haven't seen the last two seasons of
    > "Frasier".
    >
    > "Friends" had just another episode, combined with enough closure to
    > satisfy this long-time viewer. I cried and I laughed, a lot.
    >
    > -- Keith Gow --
    >
    > http://reviewaday.blogspot.com/
    >




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