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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Ashley VK3HAG
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Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

You do realise that by sitting a test and paying the ACA $57 a year you
could talk to anyone you wanted anywhere in the world for free, the only
cost being no more or less than many of you spend on a mobile phone bill in
a month

We have been sending live tv pictures since the 1950s, we can send messages
to each others radios, we can send still pictures via radio, via radio
hooked up to pc, even sms messages between radios is possible. We have our
own GPS network, APRS, which tracks people, vehicles and all else exaclty
the same way GPS does, but it's even moe sophisicated than GPS.

We can access the net without dial-up, ADSL or anything else, including an
ISP, just a radio and a pc in a mode called packet radio, we can talk to
astronauts on the Space Station, we can send still pictures, all for $57 for
year. We use satellites to, to talk round the world, again for free. We even
have equipment we can use for free to relay messages on the International
Space Station, and we did with MIR too.

We have Echolink & IRLP which lets you, via a local radio tower, connect to
any other radio tower in the world, for free, all you need is a $200 radio
and an amateur licence, total $257, no hidden costs, no contracts and you
can use it for ever.

Those that use mobiles have been brainwashed by multinational companies who
are after your dollars.

It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW, Television
and the mobile phone, but as ham radio has a not-for profit policy, one
can't sell their ideas, so they are then taken up by companies who charge
you a fortune to use something a ham invented and uses daily for free! Some
of you will be aware that the first computers were linked together by radio
connections between pc's. There are places where there's no mobile coverage,
no such thing with radio, look at the recent tsunami, the Indian Government
relied on ham radio, not mobile phones as cell towers had been washed away
and satellite phones aren't all they're cracked up to be.

Go on, look up
www.wia.org.au
www.echolink.com
www.irlp.net
www.arrl.org

Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells you
access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and Vodafone
have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?

Of course many of you won't know what amateur 'ham' radio is, some of you
will be convinced it's cb, which it isn't, because that's what these
companies making thousands of dollars a second want you to think. Ham radio
is not cb, but a much, much bigger network of many people. In Japan, almost
half the population have been or are hams....wonder why they don't sell as
many phones there...

If you, and everyone you need to contact even just used a UHF CB, you'd
never pay a phone bill again. How do think those of us in pre-pc (Apple IIe
was the latest when I finished high school), BC (before cell) days
communicated, by cb or amateur radio, which will all still do today.

The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile phones
have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams) for many years now, with the
right equipment, they are not as secure as they'd like you to believe.

THis year, amateur radio will be easier than ever to enter, Australia is
getting a new licence, called "Foundation" and you won't have to learn Morse
Code or much electronics stuff at all, just show an examiner you know how to
use a radio, which is no harder than using your phone.

I urge you to research this info for yourself. Simply, if everyone in your
household got a ham licence you could all communicate with each other,
anywhere in the world for $57 a year, and toss the mobile in the bin, which
I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are either
hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
available I'll answer your call on the radio.

All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham licence.....

Strange how teenage gals spend hours chatting on the phon, but wouldn't know
they can use ham radio to chat for free for hours on end....if I was a
parent I know which method my teenage kids would be using...and yes..in
emergencies you can get help simply by keying the mike and saying "SOS",
there is always someone on the ham bands......

For more information, or even a ham radio demonstration (I can let others
operate my equipment under my supervision) email me today and say goodbye to
Telcos and Bill$.

I'm off now to call our base in Antartica and have a chat.....

73's

de Ashley VK3HAG
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...ENT_NO=1220943

vk3hag@nerg.asn.au
Echolink No: *225827 (My telephone number that any other ham in the world
calls to connect to me directly, via pc and/or radio..cost $0)
******************************************
Australian Amateur Radio Station
******************************************
Visit WIA @ www.wia.org.au
Visit NERG @ www.nerg.asn.au
*****************************************


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Charlie Wong
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 02:32:59 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au>
wrote:

>You do realise that by sitting a test and paying the ACA $57 a year you
>could talk to anyone you wanted anywhere in the world for free, the only
>cost being no more or less than many of you spend on a mobile phone bill in
>a month


People have flocked to mobiles, in part, due to convenience, clever
marketing and perceived value.

I'm all for using technologies that are cheap and don't give big $ to
big companies.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Rod Speed
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?


Ashley VK3HAG <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> wrote in message
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> You do realise that by sitting a test and paying the ACA $57 a year
> you could talk to anyone you wanted anywhere in the world for free,


Lie. Thats hardly ever feasible.

> the only cost being no more or less than many
> of you spend on a mobile phone bill in a month


Another lie, there is more involved than that $57/year.

> We have been sending live tv pictures since the 1950s,
> we can send messages to each others radios, we can
> send still pictures via radio, via radio hooked up to pc,
> even sms messages between radios is possible.


And anyone with a clue can do that using the net, MUCH more reliably.

Reams of juvenile silly stuff flushed where it belongs.


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
alice
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

Ashley VK3HAG wrote:

> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW, Television
> and the mobile phone,


Really? Funny, I thought Tim Berners-Lee was a physics/computer nerd at
CERN, not some pallid doughy ham.

but as ham radio has a not-for profit policy, one
> can't sell their ideas, so they are then taken up by companies who charge
> you a fortune to use something a ham invented and uses daily for free! Some
> of you will be aware that the first computers were linked together by radio
> connections between pc's. There are places where there's no mobile coverage,
> no such thing with radio, look at the recent tsunami, the Indian Government
> relied on ham radio, not mobile phones as cell towers had been washed away
> and satellite phones aren't all they're cracked up to be.


And if your precious repeaters were washed away?
>
> Go on, look up
> www.wia.org.au
> www.echolink.com
> www.irlp.net
> www.arrl.org
>
> Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
> that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells you
> access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
> what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
> access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and Vodafone
> have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
> sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?
>
> Of course many of you won't know what amateur 'ham' radio is, some of you
> will be convinced it's cb, which it isn't, because that's what these
> companies making thousands of dollars a second want you to think. Ham radio
> is not cb, but a much, much bigger network of many people. In Japan, almost
> half the population have been or are hams....wonder why they don't sell as
> many phones there...
>
> If you, and everyone you need to contact even just used a UHF CB, you'd
> never pay a phone bill again. How do think those of us in pre-pc (Apple IIe
> was the latest when I finished high school), BC (before cell) days
> communicated, by cb or amateur radio, which will all still do today.
>
> The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile phones
> have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams)


Really? Care to explain the process whereby you've managed to decipher
GSM on-air calls?

for many years now, with the
> right equipment, they are not as secure as they'd like you to believe.
>
> THis year, amateur radio will be easier than ever to enter, Australia is
> getting a new licence, called "Foundation" and you won't have to learn Morse
> Code or much electronics stuff at all, just show an examiner you know how to
> use a radio, which is no harder than using your phone.
>
> I urge you to research this info for yourself. Simply, if everyone in your
> household got a ham licence you could all communicate with each other,
> anywhere in the world for $57 a year, and toss the mobile in the bin, which
> I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are either
> hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
> available I'll answer your call on the radio.
>
> All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
> communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham licence.....


Gawd, nerd city. Bet that makes 'em cringe ....



>
> Strange how teenage gals spend hours chatting on the phon, but wouldn't know
> they can use ham radio to chat for free for hours on end....if I was a
> parent I know which method my teenage kids would be using...


With everyone else listening in? Not bloody likely, dreamer.


and yes..in
> emergencies you can get help simply by keying the mike and saying "SOS",
> there is always someone on the ham bands......


Just like 000 or 112. Funny that.
>
> For more information, or even a ham radio demonstration (I can let others
> operate my equipment under my supervision) email me today and say goodbye to
> Telcos and Bill$.


Perhaps when everyone else turns into a nerd, maybe. Until then I'll
stick to reality, thanks.
>
> I'm off now to call our base in Antartica and have a chat.....


Gee, what a thrill. Not.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
John Smith
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
> You do realise that...


I use VoIP.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Ashley VK3HAG
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"alice" <alicedidit@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:d0gka3$6gr$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
> Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
>
> > It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW,

Television
> > and the mobile phone,

>
> Really? Funny, I thought Tim Berners-Lee was a physics/computer nerd at
> CERN, not some pallid doughy ham.
>
> but as ham radio has a not-for profit policy, one
> > can't sell their ideas, so they are then taken up by companies who

charge
> > you a fortune to use something a ham invented and uses daily for free!

Some
> > of you will be aware that the first computers were linked together by

radio
> > connections between pc's. There are places where there's no mobile

coverage,
> > no such thing with radio, look at the recent tsunami, the Indian

Government
> > relied on ham radio, not mobile phones as cell towers had been washed

away
> > and satellite phones aren't all they're cracked up to be.

>
> And if your precious repeaters were washed away?

You'd switch to HF, that's what.
> >
> > Go on, look up
> > www.wia.org.au
> > www.echolink.com
> > www.irlp.net
> > www.arrl.org
> >
> > Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
> > that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells

you
> > access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
> > what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
> > access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and

Vodafone
> > have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
> > sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?
> >
> > Of course many of you won't know what amateur 'ham' radio is, some of

you
> > will be convinced it's cb, which it isn't, because that's what these
> > companies making thousands of dollars a second want you to think. Ham

radio
> > is not cb, but a much, much bigger network of many people. In Japan,

almost
> > half the population have been or are hams....wonder why they don't sell

as
> > many phones there...
> >
> > If you, and everyone you need to contact even just used a UHF CB, you'd
> > never pay a phone bill again. How do think those of us in pre-pc (Apple

IIe
> > was the latest when I finished high school), BC (before cell) days
> > communicated, by cb or amateur radio, which will all still do today.
> >
> > The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile

phones
> > have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams)

>
> Really? Care to explain the process whereby you've managed to decipher
> GSM on-air calls? I haven't but I have seen it done.
>
> for many years now, with the
> > right equipment, they are not as secure as they'd like you to believe.
> >
> > THis year, amateur radio will be easier than ever to enter, Australia is
> > getting a new licence, called "Foundation" and you won't have to learn

Morse
> > Code or much electronics stuff at all, just show an examiner you know

how to
> > use a radio, which is no harder than using your phone.
> >
> > I urge you to research this info for yourself. Simply, if everyone in

your
> > household got a ham licence you could all communicate with each other,
> > anywhere in the world for $57 a year, and toss the mobile in the bin,

which
> > I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are

either
> > hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
> > available I'll answer your call on the radio.
> >
> > All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
> > communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham

licence.....
>
> Gawd, nerd city. Bet that makes 'em cringe ....
>
>
>
> >
> > Strange how teenage gals spend hours chatting on the phon, but wouldn't

know
> > they can use ham radio to chat for free for hours on end....if I was a
> > parent I know which method my teenage kids would be using...

>
> With everyone else listening in? Not bloody likely, dreamer.

You can secure your radio transmissions by using ASTRO, DCS and other modes
that are more secure than the GSM encyrption keys.
>
>
> and yes..in
> > emergencies you can get help simply by keying the mike and saying "SOS",
> > there is always someone on the ham bands......

>
> Just like 000 or 112. Funny that. Or, simply 'come up' on the local police

radio channel, which hams are allowed to do in an emergency
> >
> > For more information, or even a ham radio demonstration (I can let

others
> > operate my equipment under my supervision) email me today and say

goodbye to
> > Telcos and Bill$.

>
> Perhaps when everyone else turns into a nerd, maybe. Until then I'll
> stick to reality, thanks.
> >
> > I'm off now to call our base in Antartica and have a chat.....

>
> Gee, what a thrill. Not.



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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Ashley VK3HAG
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?


"John Smith" <test@test.com> wrote in message
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> Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
> > You do realise that...

>
> I use VoIP. The same technology us hams use for IRLP and Echolink

VoIP...It rocks doesn't it!


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?


"Ashley VK3HAG" <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> dribbled in message
news:v3PWd.186990$K7.171181@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> You do realise that by sitting a test and paying the ACA $57 a year you
> could talk to anyone you wanted anywhere in the world for free


What! Ray Martin and the ACA team are getting money from me!

That's outrageous! I oughta get a current affairs show on to that scam..
oh..


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?


"Ashley VK3HAG" <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> wrote in message
news:YIQWd.187047$K7.80724@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "John Smith" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:d0gkns$18q$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...
>> Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
>> > You do realise that...

>>
>> I use VoIP. The same technology us hams use for IRLP and Echolink

> VoIP...It rocks doesn't it!
>

Is that a question?


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
> "John Smith" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:d0gkns$18q$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...
>
>>Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
>>
>>>You do realise that...

>>
>>I use VoIP. The same technology us hams use for IRLP and Echolink

>
> VoIP...It rocks doesn't it!


Yep. I don't even have to pay $57 too. Use use an existing (already paid
for), internet connection.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Michael
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

> Those that use mobiles have been brainwashed by multinational companies
who
> are after your dollars.


Conspiracy theory.

> Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
> that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells you
> access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
> what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
> access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and

Vodafone
> have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
> sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?


Does your radio link into the PSTN and mobile phone networks?

> The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile phones
> have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams) for many years now, with


Dies.
GSM and CDMA mobile conversations are very difficult to monitor.

> I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are either
> hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
> available I'll answer your call on the radio.


Freaks associate with freaks.

> All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
> communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham licence.....


Freak kids come from freak parents.



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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?


Ashley VK3HAG <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> wrote in message
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> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW,


Lie.

> Television


Lie.

> and the mobile phone,


Lie.

> but as ham radio has a not-for profit policy, one can't sell their ideas,


Lie.

> so they are then taken up by companies who charge you a
> fortune to use something a ham invented and uses daily for free!


Lie.

> Some of you will be aware that the first computers were
> linked together by radio connections between pc's.


Lie.

> There are places where there's no mobile coverage, no such
> thing with radio, look at the recent tsunami, the Indian Government
> relied on ham radio, not mobile phones as cell towers had been
> washed away and satellite phones aren't all they're cracked up to be.


Lie.

> Go on, look up
> www.wia.org.au
> www.echolink.com
> www.irlp.net
> www.arrl.org


No thanks, I was using that stuff before you were even born thanks child.

Reams and reams of pig ignorant juvenile shit flushed where it belongs.


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
You'd switch to HF, that's what.

Requiring more equipment. So much for your ludicrous idea.

UHF CB is NOT a replacement for mobile phones - you've proved that by
your inability to address the other points I made.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005, at 02:32:59 [GMT GMT] (13:32:59 Monday, 7 March 2005
where I live) "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote:

> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW


I thought Dan Quale did?

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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Rhye Best
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

oh go away


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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"Ashley VK3HAG" <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> said


> We have Echolink & IRLP which lets you, via a local radio tower, connect
> to any other radio tower in the world, for free, all you need is a $200
> radio and an amateur licence, total $257, no hidden costs, no contracts
> and you can use it for ever.


Pity it won't fit in your pocket or let you simply call a normal telephone
from it.
Utterly useless.

>
> Those that use mobiles have been brainwashed by multinational companies
> who are after your dollars.
>


Mindless waffle. People pay for it because it's about 100 times more usefull
and convenient than amateur radio.

> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW,


Liar.

> Television


Liar.

> and the mobile phone,


Liar. That was invented by a top secret US government organisation.
http://www.cia.gov/spy_fi/item15.html


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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WIA are a mob of loonies who have no friends, hence no need to communicate.


"Ashley VK3HAG" <vk3hag@nerg.asn.au> wrote in message
news:v3PWd.186990$K7.171181@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> You do realise that by sitting a test and paying the ACA $57 a year you
> could talk to anyone you wanted anywhere in the world for free, the only
> cost being no more or less than many of you spend on a mobile phone bill
> in
> a month
>
> We have been sending live tv pictures since the 1950s, we can send
> messages
> to each others radios, we can send still pictures via radio, via radio
> hooked up to pc, even sms messages between radios is possible. We have our
> own GPS network, APRS, which tracks people, vehicles and all else exaclty
> the same way GPS does, but it's even moe sophisicated than GPS.
>
> We can access the net without dial-up, ADSL or anything else, including an
> ISP, just a radio and a pc in a mode called packet radio, we can talk to
> astronauts on the Space Station, we can send still pictures, all for $57
> for
> year. We use satellites to, to talk round the world, again for free. We
> even
> have equipment we can use for free to relay messages on the International
> Space Station, and we did with MIR too.
>
> We have Echolink & IRLP which lets you, via a local radio tower, connect
> to
> any other radio tower in the world, for free, all you need is a $200 radio
> and an amateur licence, total $257, no hidden costs, no contracts and you
> can use it for ever.
>
> Those that use mobiles have been brainwashed by multinational companies
> who
> are after your dollars.
>
> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW, Television
> and the mobile phone, but as ham radio has a not-for profit policy, one
> can't sell their ideas, so they are then taken up by companies who charge
> you a fortune to use something a ham invented and uses daily for free!
> Some
> of you will be aware that the first computers were linked together by
> radio
> connections between pc's. There are places where there's no mobile
> coverage,
> no such thing with radio, look at the recent tsunami, the Indian
> Government
> relied on ham radio, not mobile phones as cell towers had been washed away
> and satellite phones aren't all they're cracked up to be.
>
> Go on, look up
> www.wia.org.au
> www.echolink.com
> www.irlp.net
> www.arrl.org
>
> Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
> that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells you
> access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
> what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
> access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and
> Vodafone
> have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
> sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?
>
> Of course many of you won't know what amateur 'ham' radio is, some of you
> will be convinced it's cb, which it isn't, because that's what these
> companies making thousands of dollars a second want you to think. Ham
> radio
> is not cb, but a much, much bigger network of many people. In Japan,
> almost
> half the population have been or are hams....wonder why they don't sell as
> many phones there...
>
> If you, and everyone you need to contact even just used a UHF CB, you'd
> never pay a phone bill again. How do think those of us in pre-pc (Apple
> IIe
> was the latest when I finished high school), BC (before cell) days
> communicated, by cb or amateur radio, which will all still do today.
>
> The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile phones
> have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams) for many years now, with
> the
> right equipment, they are not as secure as they'd like you to believe.
>
> THis year, amateur radio will be easier than ever to enter, Australia is
> getting a new licence, called "Foundation" and you won't have to learn
> Morse
> Code or much electronics stuff at all, just show an examiner you know how
> to
> use a radio, which is no harder than using your phone.
>
> I urge you to research this info for yourself. Simply, if everyone in your
> household got a ham licence you could all communicate with each other,
> anywhere in the world for $57 a year, and toss the mobile in the bin,
> which
> I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are either
> hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
> available I'll answer your call on the radio.
>
> All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
> communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham licence.....
>
> Strange how teenage gals spend hours chatting on the phon, but wouldn't
> know
> they can use ham radio to chat for free for hours on end....if I was a
> parent I know which method my teenage kids would be using...and yes..in
> emergencies you can get help simply by keying the mike and saying "SOS",
> there is always someone on the ham bands......
>
> For more information, or even a ham radio demonstration (I can let others
> operate my equipment under my supervision) email me today and say goodbye
> to
> Telcos and Bill$.
>
> I'm off now to call our base in Antartica and have a chat.....
>
> 73's
>
> de Ashley VK3HAG
> http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...ENT_NO=1220943
>
> vk3hag@nerg.asn.au
> Echolink No: *225827 (My telephone number that any other ham in the world
> calls to connect to me directly, via pc and/or radio..cost $0)
> ******************************************
> Australian Amateur Radio Station
> ******************************************
> Visit WIA @ www.wia.org.au
> Visit NERG @ www.nerg.asn.au
> *****************************************
>
>



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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Kevin Nugent
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

Actually, I think it was Al Gore that claimed it ... and was embarrassed
afterwards when he was exposed.


"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005, at 02:32:59 [GMT GMT] (13:32:59 Monday, 7 March 2005
> where I live) "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote:
>
>> It was us, Amateur Radio Operators "Hams" who invented the WWW

>
> I thought Dan Quale did?



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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Why pay for a mobile & Make some big company rich?

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:35:41 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Conspiracy theory.


Liar.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Ashley VK3HAG
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Those that use mobiles have been brainwashed by multinational companies

> who
> > are after your dollars.

>
> Conspiracy theory.
>
> > Why pay Telstra to use a bit of the 900MHz or 3GHz bands. You do realize
> > that Telstra buys that radio spectrum from the government, then sells

you
> > access rights for each call you make, charging you at least twenty times
> > what they paid for the same peice of radio spectrum. I pay $57 a year to
> > access three times as much radio spectrum as Telstra, Optus, 3, and

> Vodafone
> > have put together, again for just $57. A mobile phone is really just a
> > sophiscated two-way radio, that's all. Why get ripped off so badly?

>
> Does your radio link into the PSTN and mobile phone networks? Yes it does,

it's called autopatching, many Australian, NZ, US and UK amateur radio
repeaters have this facitlity
>
> > The only down side is call security, but again, even digital mobile

phones
> > have been monitorable by 'radio nuts' (ie hams) for many years now, with

>
> Dies.
> GSM and CDMA mobile conversations are very difficult to monitor.
>
> > I did quite a while back now, as all people I ever need to call are

either
> > hams themselves or use a CB, so there's no need to call me, as if I"m
> > available I'll answer your call on the radio.

>
> Freaks associate with freaks.
>
> > All my kids will never have a mobile phone they will use UHF CB to
> > communicate with home until they are old enough to gain a ham

licence.....
>
> Freak kids come from freak parents.
>
>
>



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