Re: Nokia Phone Software

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:35:06 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:

> Anderson said....
>
>> Most likely not an original DKU-5 cable. The non-original cables
>
> No, it's not. Cost $30 plus shipping.
>
>> usually uses the prolific chipset as opposed to the original Nokia DKU-5
>> which uses a customized Atmel programmable chip. I believe non-original
>> cables cannot be made to work with Nokia PC Suite (but works with
>> alternative software like Oxygen). Hope that helps....
>
> The cable isn't recognised by Windows. As I said previously, Device
> Manager displays it as a big yellow question mark. And yes, I followed
> the procedure. Install drivers first, followed by cable insertion. I
> even tried DKU-2 driversin case it was the wrong cable, but to no avail.

The solution is pretty simple: assuming you've already installed the
Prolific USB-to-serial driver, go to the entry in Device Manager with the
big yellow question mark, double-click it and hit the "reinstall driver"
button. If the Prolific driver is already on your hard disk (it should be)
then at this point Windows XP will associate the driver with the device and
you'll end up with a new "port" on COM3.

If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to where
to get it.

By the way, my non-original cable works just fine with Nokia's PC Suite.
It's just that PC Suite sucks :)

> One thing that the PC Suite software indicated, when I installed it
> hoping that this would finally get it all to work, was that from the
> connectivity sources available, I could tick/select from Bluetooth,
> Infrared, DKU-2 (USB) or DKU-5 (Serial). This cable has a USB
> connection, not a serial adapter....

Once the Prolific driver is installed, XP will see the cable as though it
was a serial device.


- Anthony

Anthony said....

> The solution is pretty simple: assuming you've already installed the
> Prolific USB-to-serial driver, go to the entry in Device Manager with the

I don't recall installing that. I just installed the software that's
available for the DKU-5 that I got from the Nokia website.

> If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to
> where to get it.

Thanks

(pity you didn't include the link in this message....)

Anthony said....

> If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to
> where to get it.

I found it, downloaded it, installed it, then reinstalled the DKU-5
driver and PC Suite. It works.

Thanks for the tip.

> By the way, my non-original cable works just fine with Nokia's PC Suite.
> It's just that PC Suite sucks :)

Yep, can't agree more. It only allows sync with "mainstream" products
such as Outlook and Lotus Notes, neither of which I use at home.

What sucks though, and the main reasons for me wanting to try this, is
that it doesn't recognise my 2280 as a valid phone for sending or
receiving SMSes. Nor does it allow me to copy to the PC and then edit or
browse the phone book. I can transfer the contents or back them up, but
it won't allow me to do anything with it.

My main aim was to export all my contacts out of my Palm Desktop
software, and import or transfer it into PC Suite then upload to the
mobile.

Nokia, in this respect, has gone backwards. Any wonder it gives its
software away. I could do all that stuff on the Data suite that I used
to use with my ancient Nokia 5110. Then later on, I used the software
that was compatible with my Nokia 6385 (CDMA), but it was still
primitive in that it didn't recognise multiple entries in one phonebook
listing (mobile, home, work, email, etc.). It'd only export or read the
first entry of each phonebook list.

I'm currently downloading that Oxygen Phone Manager to see how that'll
go. I hope that it ain't too limited in what it can do as a trial or
evaluation.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:21:17 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:

>> If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to
>> where to get it.
>
> Thanks
>
> (pity you didn't include the link in this message....)

Only because I last downloaded the thing months ago and would have had to
go on a scavenger hunt to find the link :) I would have just emailed you
the driver, but I see from your other post that you already found it :-)


- Anthony

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:35:07 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:

> I'm currently downloading that Oxygen Phone Manager to see how that'll
> go. I hope that it ain't too limited in what it can do as a trial or
> evaluation.

It's much, much better than PC Suite, though somewhat overpriced.


- Anthony

Anthony Horan wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:35:07 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:
>
>
>>I'm currently downloading that Oxygen Phone Manager to see how that'll
>>go. I hope that it ain't too limited in what it can do as a trial or
>>evaluation.
>
>
> It's much, much better than PC Suite, though somewhat overpriced.
>
>
> - Anthony

More than somewhat overpriced, it's a bloody rip off!


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Anthony said....

> Only because I last downloaded the thing months ago and would have had to
> go on a scavenger hunt to find the link :) I would have just emailed you
> the driver, but I see from your other post that you already found it :-)

Yeah. It works. But both the Nokia PC Suite and the Oxygen software
leave a lot to be desired. Neither allows me to do what I want. And O2
corrupted the address book/contacts list. Also, O2's trial version is
severely restricted in what it can do, it appears. And that annoys me as
I can't really try it out.

Nokia PC Suite doesn't allow me to send or receive SMSes via the PC, nor
to edit/add/delete contacts. About all it's good for, for the 2280, at
least, is to back up the phonebook.

Then, later on, I couldn't access my USB thumbdrive. I'm not sure why,
but I suspect the USB software that you suggested is playing up. I could
access it when I turned on my PC tonight, about an hour ago. But it took
3 goes of removing and inserting the thumbdrive before I could see it in
Windows Explorer.

And as I type, the access LED on the thumbdrive has stopped flashing. I
went into Explorer, and while a "thumbdrive on E:" is displayed,
clicking on it does nothing.

Looks like that this experiment was a failure. I might have to fork out
for the $100 genuine item. Thing is, if the software is shit, then
there's no point, really.

Anthony said....

> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:21:17 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:
>
>>> If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to
>>> where to get it.

I wish that I never read that message of yours...

:-(

I've just spent the past hour trying to figure out why my USB ports
won't recognise flash memory any more. I uninstalled all the software
and drivers relating to the phone, including the O2, Nokia and Prolific
drivers/software. I've rebooted the PC a number of times, even powered
it down, switched it off, unplugged it, danced around it, all to no
avail.

Initially, Windows detects something being plugged in, the activity
light on the device flickers, then stops. Nothing is displayed in
Explorer. I then tried my Belkin 6-in-1 card reader and slotted a camera
card into it. No go there, either.

Looks like something's fucked, big time.

Windows doesn't report any errors. And the USB printer, scanner and the
Palm Hotsynce work still.

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:02:48 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:

> Anthony said....
>
>> Only because I last downloaded the thing months ago and would have had to
>> go on a scavenger hunt to find the link :) I would have just emailed you
>> the driver, but I see from your other post that you already found it :-)
>
> Yeah. It works. But both the Nokia PC Suite and the Oxygen software
> leave a lot to be desired. Neither allows me to do what I want. And O2
> corrupted the address book/contacts list.

Out of curiosity, how did it corrupt the list? I tried an earlier version
of Oxygen out last year with my 3100 and had no problems...

> Nokia PC Suite doesn't allow me to send or receive SMSes via the PC, nor
> to edit/add/delete contacts. About all it's good for, for the 2280, at
> least, is to back up the phonebook.

And text messages, presumably. I'm not familiar with the 2280, but I would
hope it had the ability to transfer sent and received SMS messages to PC
Suite. That's largely the reason I use the thing in the first place :)

> Then, later on, I couldn't access my USB thumbdrive. I'm not sure why,
> but I suspect the USB software that you suggested is playing up. I could
> access it when I turned on my PC tonight, about an hour ago. But it took
> 3 goes of removing and inserting the thumbdrive before I could see it in
> Windows Explorer.

Now that's an odd one; I run about 8 USB devices here (both USB 1.1 and USB
2.0) both direct from the motherboard and via a USB host card, and have
never had such hassles despite swapping things around in the ports quite a
bit.

If you like, I'll email you the latest version of the Prolific driver that
I have here, which is WHQL certified for XP Home and Pro.

> Looks like that this experiment was a failure. I might have to fork out
> for the $100 genuine item.

Last time I saw a DKU-5 cable on sale it was $150. Which was the bit where
I laughed, mouthed "fuck you Nokia", and searched out a "fake" version.

When the data cable costs more than the actual phone you're plugging it
into, you know Nokia Australia have their heads firmly up their collective
arses. :)

> Thing is, if the software is shit, then there's no point, really.

There are some other software options which I tried, also paid programs
with trial versions; maybe this one will suit you:

http://www.logomanager.co.uk/php/products.php?id=53


- Anthony

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:49:13 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:

> Anthony said....
>
>> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:21:17 +1000, Martin Taylor wrote:
>>
>>>> If you don't have the Prolific driver, email me and I'll point you to
>>>> where to get it.
>
> I wish that I never read that message of yours...
>
> :-(

Eep.

> I've just spent the past hour trying to figure out why my USB ports
> won't recognise flash memory any more. I uninstalled all the software
> and drivers relating to the phone, including the O2, Nokia and Prolific
> drivers/software. I've rebooted the PC a number of times, even powered
> it down, switched it off, unplugged it, danced around it, all to no
> avail.

What about System Restore?

> Initially, Windows detects something being plugged in, the activity
> light on the device flickers, then stops. Nothing is displayed in
> Explorer. I then tried my Belkin 6-in-1 card reader and slotted a camera
> card into it. No go there, either.
>
> Looks like something's fucked, big time.

Is this the same USB port you configured the Prolific device on?
Something's obviously still getting in the way of normality there. Have you
deleted the "modem" created that connects to COM3? Is COM3 completely gone
in Device Manager?

System Restore is your best quick fix, but I've used several versions of
the Prolific driver and have experienced no problems of this kind at all. I
have, however, run into similar USB problems caused by other drivers. It
should be fixable without too much hassle.

> Windows doesn't report any errors. And the USB printer, scanner and the
> Palm Hotsynce work still.

I'm sure you already have, but if not, try putting your USB storage key
into one of the USB ports you're using for the printer/scanner/Palm...


- Anthony

Anthony said....

>> Yeah. It works. But both the Nokia PC Suite and the Oxygen software
>> leave a lot to be desired. Neither allows me to do what I want. And O2
>> corrupted the address book/contacts list.
>
> Out of curiosity, how did it corrupt the list? I tried an earlier version
> of Oxygen out last year with my 3100 and had no problems...

Bad wording. The phone contacts list that it imported or downloaded out
of the phone was corrupted. Weird entries, missing phone numbers, or
numbers in the wrong spots, etc. I didn't upload or transfer any data
back to the phone.

> And text messages, presumably. I'm not familiar with the 2280, but I
> would hope it had the ability to transfer sent and received SMS messages
> to PC Suite. That's largely the reason I use the thing in the first
> place :)

Nah, wouldn't do it. O2 did, but eveyr 2nd message (mostly in the Send
box), O2 said was corrupted or invalid or whatever. And what it did
import, some only had the first few words of the message, and others had
nothing at all.

>> Then, later on, I couldn't access my USB thumbdrive. I'm not sure why,
>> but I suspect the USB software that you suggested is playing up. I

> If you like, I'll email you the latest version of the Prolific driver
> that I have here, which is WHQL certified for XP Home and Pro.

Since I last spoke, my PC crashed. It happened this morning. I turned it
on, went and got a cuppa. Just as I started reading my email it went
arse over. Blank screen, and a repeated single beep, with the keyboard
lights constantly flashing, as they do when the PC is booting.

Took it back to the shop to get it fixed. They determined that its hard
disk was fucked and put in a new one. When I got home, I turned it on.
This time, just a blank screen, a few fans whirring, and no other
activity.

It goes back tommorrow. As I live 2 hrs away from where I bought it,
it's no trivial matter to have this shit dealt with. Luckily the missus
is heading to town for a George Thorogood concert. SHe can drop if off
and pick it up the next day, hopefully fixed.

In any case, I won't be bothering with the Nokia cable. Gotta give it
back to the son-in-law anyway, as it's his. Wasn't impressed with what
the available software can do, so I won't be bothering.


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Anthony said....

>> I wish that I never read that message of yours...
>>
>> :-(
>
> Eep.

That wasn't what I said, exactly....

> What about System Restore?

Yeah, never thought about that. As a relatively new WinXP convert, I've
not had to do any of this before. Usually just use the "add/remove
programs" in CP.

> Is this the same USB port you configured the Prolific device on?
> Something's obviously still getting in the way of normality there. Have
> you deleted the "modem" created that connects to COM3? Is COM3
> completely gone in Device Manager?

Dunno how the USB ports can be differentiated. I have 4 on the back, 3
of which are in use and were working (printer, scanner and Palm Hotsync
cradle) Device Manager doesn't show them individually.

And no, Device Manager didn't show any Comports are than Com1 into which
my Etrex GPS cable is plugged. So, I think all traces of it were
removed.

> I'm sure you already have, but if not, try putting your USB storage key
> into one of the USB ports you're using for the printer/scanner/Palm...

I did. After I posted that original message, I also tried the thumbdrive
in the missus' laptop and her desktop. Both couldn't see it. Also, it
wouldn't read any cards plugged into my Belkin 6-in-1 card reader.

Whatever, it's all academic now. PC's rooted. I'll post a followup when
I get it back from the PC shop.



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