Speaker Reviews

Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you guys
could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I could cut
the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and many of them
sound the same to me!).

I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC series
looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a lot for your
money but it's still bloody expensive!

LiFe.

"LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was
hoping you guys
> could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie
speakers so I could cut
> the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints
and many of them
> sound the same to me!).
>
> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The
VAF DC series
> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you
get a lot for your
> money but it's still bloody expensive!
>
> LiFe.
>
>

Firstly, how much do you really want to spend and secondly
for HT you need a sub so why don't you want one?

Cheers TT

Try

www.ecoustics.com

www.audioreview.com

www.epinions.com

Cheers

Lester Bangs..

"LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you guys
> could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I could
> cut the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and many of
> them sound the same to me!).
>
> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC series
> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a lot for
> your money but it's still bloody expensive!
>
> LiFe.
>
>

[19Hz]

Well, I know this is going to sound stupid, but that does not bother me...

If you have the Money, buy B&W's.

If you want reviews, look at the sound and Image awards magazine (only available in magazine form I believe).

[thornton melon]

You WILL need a sub!

Well the $4.2k package from VAF is pretty compreshensive and the reviews
sound like it's great value for money. Shouldn't have too much problem with
assembly. It'd be nice to keep it below $4k.

I don't want a sub because that takes even more room (these speakers are
already too large for the apt, maybe I should use DC-7's instead of DC-X's)
and according to VAF and a few reviews, the DC-X's do bass pretty well
without a sub, and further, I'm not one for pounding bass beat or ear
splitting explotions that rumble the neighbours. Excelent sound will be just
fine for me...

If I can get that without a sub, then great. Although I guess all of the
compact speaker ranges use a sub pretty extensively to compensate for the
loss in output from the small speakers. And if I went compact, a sub would
be necessary.


"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43524e49$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
> "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
>> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was
> hoping you guys
>> could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie
> speakers so I could cut
>> the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints
> and many of them
>> sound the same to me!).
>>
>> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The
> VAF DC series
>> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you
> get a lot for your
>> money but it's still bloody expensive!
>>
>> LiFe.
>>
>>
>
> Firstly, how much do you really want to spend and secondly
> for HT you need a sub so why don't you want one?
>
> Cheers TT
>
>

Hmm, seems if anyone writes a review, they just say it's the best thing they
ever heard - no matter what the product : )

I guess audio technology has reached the point where improvements are now
just minor tweaks.


"Lester Bangs" <dvdsucker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4352be5b@news.comindico.com.au...
> Try
>
> www.ecoustics.com
>
> www.audioreview.com
>
> www.epinions.com
>
> Cheers
>
> Lester Bangs..
>
> "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
>> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you
>> guys could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I
>> could cut the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and
>> many of them sound the same to me!).
>>
>> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC series
>> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a lot for
>> your money but it's still bloody expensive!
>>
>> LiFe.
>>
>>
>
>

[thornton melon]

My system is not compact but a sub makes all the difference, even a small sub adds a lot to a soundtrack. I was so poor I built my first subs from kits. you can build one from $200

thornton melon wrote:
> My system is not compact but a sub makes all the difference, even a
> small sub adds a lot to a soundtrack. I was so poor I built my first
> subs from kits. you can build one from $200
>
>
more information please.

Have a look at the Whatmough perfomance series as an option, after discounts
they might be around your budget. Depending on the size of your room for 2ch
music and most non action movies you can get away without a subwoofer.
However anything with a lot of action/sound effects etc will make a big
difference. The subwoofer can always added later and integrated into
whatever speakers you eventually decide on.

"LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you guys
> could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I could
> cut the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and many of
> them sound the same to me!).
>
> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC series
> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a lot for
> your money but it's still bloody expensive!
>
> LiFe.
>
>

You get these audio magazines reviewing products, there hardly going to say
there a load of shit, and risk loosing advertising dollars.
I really would doubt, there is anyone out there in the business, that will
give you an honest verdict on anything, Even a private reviewer won't write
the truth, simply because if he does say there crap, the product supplier
won't let him review anything else.
So everything that's reviewed , comes up smelling of Roses,

The only way to get any idea of anything , is to hear it yourself and form
your own opinion of the product. In other words do the rounds of the
showrooms, spend a lot of time, and then decide what your going to spend
your money on. Then spend the next few years convincing yourself that you
have made the right choice.
bassett

"LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4353707a$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
> Hmm, seems if anyone writes a review, they just say it's the best thing
> they ever heard - no matter what the product : )
>
> I guess audio technology has reached the point where improvements are now
> just minor tweaks.
>
>
> "Lester Bangs" <dvdsucker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4352be5b@news.comindico.com.au...
>> Try
>>
>> www.ecoustics.com
>>
>> www.audioreview.com
>>
>> www.epinions.com
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lester Bangs..
>>
>> "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
>>> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you
>>> guys could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I
>>> could cut the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and
>>> many of them sound the same to me!).
>>>
>>> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC series
>>> looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a lot for
>>> your money but it's still bloody expensive!
>>>
>>> LiFe.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Interestingly, IT reviews tend to be less biased, regardless of advertising.
You always find a few bum products in any review writeup.

Obviously Audio reviewers are spineless : )

"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com> wrote in message
news:435462b7@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> You get these audio magazines reviewing products, there hardly going to
> say there a load of shit, and risk loosing advertising dollars.
> I really would doubt, there is anyone out there in the business, that
> will give you an honest verdict on anything, Even a private reviewer won't
> write the truth, simply because if he does say there crap, the product
> supplier won't let him review anything else.
> So everything that's reviewed , comes up smelling of Roses,
>
> The only way to get any idea of anything , is to hear it yourself and form
> your own opinion of the product. In other words do the rounds of the
> showrooms, spend a lot of time, and then decide what your going to spend
> your money on. Then spend the next few years convincing yourself that you
> have made the right choice.
> bassett
>
> "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4353707a$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
>> Hmm, seems if anyone writes a review, they just say it's the best thing
>> they ever heard - no matter what the product : )
>>
>> I guess audio technology has reached the point where improvements are now
>> just minor tweaks.
>>
>>
>> "Lester Bangs" <dvdsucker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4352be5b@news.comindico.com.au...
>>> Try
>>>
>>> www.ecoustics.com
>>>
>>> www.audioreview.com
>>>
>>> www.epinions.com
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lester Bangs..
>>>
>>> "LiFe" <lifers4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4352458d$1_1@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com. ..
>>>> Yes yes, I know it's personal choice, yada yada, but I was hoping you
>>>> guys could point me to some websites that reviewed aussie speakers so I
>>>> could cut the 'listening test' down to a minimum (time constraints and
>>>> many of them sound the same to me!).
>>>>
>>>> I'm after a 5 speaker package that doesn't need a sub. The VAF DC
>>>> series looks great. At $4.3k (self assembly) it sounds like you get a
>>>> lot for your money but it's still bloody expensive!
>>>>
>>>> LiFe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[19Hz]

Yeah, they might be less biased, but they also are less likely to know what to listen for.

Unfortunately there are 2 types of 'Good' speakers, the acousticly accurate ones, and the ones that sound good. Which ones do you buy?

For example, when you attach a sub to a system, do you match it to the level of the rest of the system, or turn it up a bit more because it sounds cool? Accurate or sounds good...

[thornton melon]

In my opinion the sub should NOTbe overstated,it should not be heard unless needed. sometimes it simbly provides "ambient rumble" if a bomb explodes you should FEELit ,set your sub to Saving Private Ryan landing scene, then try something with no bass evident and the sub should remain unniticed. Trial and error is the key.

[pharmaboy]

FWIW, a mate of mine with a 10k B&W speaker system told me how his $2000 1000w sub was indispensible, so he turned it off and played a dvd and he says "see", so i change the settings in the amp to send the 0.1 channel to the mains, and low and behold there was fantastic bass, we did a couple of comparos and the sub was better but not outrageously so.

The reason I tried this is because I have always operated without a sub with Mirage M7's and have never felt the need to go out and buy a sub, so decent fronts can do a very good job of it, and your neighbours will thank you for it!

dont worry about the petrol blowers and mowers at 7.30 on a sunday morning, a HT sub at 11pm midweek is heaps more annoying to your neighbours.

[thornton melon]

Hi Reggy, I built a small compact sub called the BASS BARREL,from a plan in an electronics mag. it worked very well. It was from from ALTRONICS in W.A.
It was 2x 6.5 speakers facing each other (isobaric) in a small twin chamber box with pvc ports. the plans may still be available. I have them if needed.
Cheers. Oh, and you can power it from an old stereo amp or a JAYCAR sub amp module