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http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999


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?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote

> http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999

Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
>
>> http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999
>
> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

It helps.

The number of calls have dropped a lot since I subscribed.

?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote

>>> http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999

>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

> It helps.

But not with the worst of the telemarketing arseholes.

> The number of calls have dropped a lot since I subscribed.

The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
>
>>>> http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999
>
>>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.
>
>> It helps.
>
> But not with the worst of the telemarketing arseholes.
>


Yes just had a call from a call center. Indian woman. Wanting to sell me
concrete stenciling.

?andypandy? wrote:

>> But not with the worst of the telemarketing arseholes.
>>
>
>
> Yes just had a call from a call center. Indian woman. Wanting to sell me
> concrete stenciling.

Telemarketers are like Mormons and JWs. One can have endless fun with them
by going along with their spiel for a while. Remember, when they phone you
from India they are paying for the call and having to pay the odd few
rupees for the staff. It is also tying up that staff member and a phone
line while you are wasting their time.

The arseholes that paid for the "service" are not getting their money's
worth. It is a win-win situation if you can spare the time. Just last
week I let some poor bugger talk for 10 minutes about the "benefits" of
attending some "investment" seminar. When I eventually got sick of it I
admitted that I worked for the ATO (sort of true - my company subcontracts
to EDS who contract to the ATO). For some reason he hung up. ;-)

I reckon it is more entertaining than most of what's on TV thesedays.

?andypandy? said....

>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.
>
> It helps.
>
> The number of calls have dropped a lot since I subscribed.

What about the incessant calls that we're receiving from India, etc.?

"Martin Taylor" <mjpt_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:436a0cce.62d8b432.bm000@yahoo.com.au...
> ?andypandy? said....
>
>>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.
>>
>> It helps.
>>
>> The number of calls have dropped a lot since I subscribed.
>
> What about the incessant calls that we're receiving from India, etc.?
>

Get calling number display. If it shows "out of area" aroind din din times,
dont answer.

The good thing about these proposed laws is that all of those Australian
companies that set-up a call centre in India will be rooted.

?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote:
> "Martin Taylor" <mjpt_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:436a0cce.62d8b432.bm000@yahoo.com.au...
>> ?andypandy? said....
>>
>>>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>>>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.
>>>
>>> It helps.
>>>
>>> The number of calls have dropped a lot since I subscribed.
>>
>> What about the incessant calls that we're receiving from India, etc.?
>>
>
> Get calling number display. If it shows "out of area" aroind din din
> times, dont answer.
>
> The good thing about these proposed laws is that all of those
> Australian companies that set-up a call centre in India will be
> rooted.

No they wont, most wont bother to get themselves
listed on the do not call register, you watch.

Rod Speed wrote:
> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
>
> > http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999
>
> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

And even if they do half of them ignore "don't call" instructions.
Yell, and they'll say they got you off a new list sold bysomeone else
and their cross-checking "missed you"!! AMP, Citibank and American
Express are all ADMA members who I've had troubles with and now I just
pass on the mail to NSW Fair Trading who get onto the companies and it
dries up for a few months (more difficult with phone calls). ADMA are
useless. They are the last people you'd want in charge of a "Do Not
Call Register" as it isn't in their own financial interest to have too
many people on a "Do Not Call Register" - how will they do business if
no-one wants calls? This is also the reason we need an opt-in system
rather than an opt-out system, but bet you anything you like the
government will take ADMA's side and force us to go to the trouble of
opting-out (ADMA members afterall feature amongst the biggest political
donors). We also really want to include politicians and charities on
the "Do Not Call" list - last time I checked the pollies wanted
themselves to be an exception, and they wanted charities also to be an
exception (I will no longer donate to Red Cross as had continual calls
from people claiming to be Red Cross Victoria annoying me for months).

Rod Speed wrote:
> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote
>
> > http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999
>
> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

And even if they do half of them ignore "don't call" instructions.
Yell, and they'll say they got you off a new list sold bysomeone else
and their cross-checking "missed you"!! AMP, Citibank and American
Express are all ADMA members who I've had troubles with and now I just
pass on the mail to NSW Fair Trading who get onto the companies and it
dries up for a few months (more difficult with phone calls). ADMA are
useless. They are the last people you'd want in charge of a "Do Not
Call Register" as it isn't in their own financial interest to have too
many people on a "Do Not Call Register" - how will they do business if
no-one wants calls? This is also the reason we need an opt-in system
rather than an opt-out system, but bet you anything you like the
government will take ADMA's side and force us to go to the trouble of
opting-out (ADMA members afterall feature amongst the biggest political
donors). We also really want to include politicians and charities on
the "Do Not Call" list - last time I checked the pollies wanted
themselves to be an exception, and they wanted charities also to be an
exception (I will no longer donate to Red Cross as had continual calls
from people claiming to be Red Cross Victoria annoying me for months).

mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> ?andypandy? <billl&ben@hotmag.com> wrote

>>> http://www.adma.com.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=1999

>> Pity that the worst of the telemarketing arseholes dont
>> belong to that for what should be rather obvious reasons.

> And even if they do half of them ignore "don't call" instructions.

Yeah, tho its easier to shaft ADMA members if they try that.

> Yell, and they'll say they got you off a new list sold bysomeone else
> and their cross-checking "missed you"!! AMP, Citibank and American
> Express are all ADMA members who I've had troubles with and now I just
> pass on the mail to NSW Fair Trading who get onto the companies and it
> dries up for a few months (more difficult with phone calls). ADMA are useless.

That's overstating it, presumably some do honor the do not call register.

> They are the last people you'd want in charge of a
> "Do Not Call Register" as it isn't in their own financial
> interest to have too many people on a "Do Not Call
> Register" - how will they do business if no-one wants calls?

Thats rather silly too. There isnt any point in calling those
who are on the do not call register, its unlikely that many
who have gone to the trouble to register will even listen
to the call, let alone buy what is being spruiked.

> This is also the reason we need an opt-in
> system rather than an opt-out system,

That is never gunna happen and not one country world wide has that.

> but bet you anything you like the government will take ADMA's side

Nothing to do with the ADMA, the govt realises that its just not practical.

> and force us to go to the trouble of opting-out (ADMA
> members afterall feature amongst the biggest political donors).

Mindless conspiracy theory.

> We also really want to include politicians and charities
> on the "Do Not Call" list - last time I checked the pollies
> wanted themselves to be an exception,

Yep, and you're off with the fucking fairys if you seriously believe
that the pollys will go for an opt in system for polly telemarketing.

> and they wanted charities also to be an exception

Basically because they consider that the charitys might
well end up in very deep shit if they cant make calls.

> (I will no longer donate to Red Cross as had continual calls from
> people claiming to be Red Cross Victoria annoying me for months).

Yea, I just dont like any calls by charitys, if I want to donate I'll do
that without needing a phone call and I think that the percentage of
donations that get wasted on the calls are an obscenity and so I
wont normally donate to any operation that calls for that reason.