Re: cant we just get a format like DirecTV

Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!

There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
half a dozen.....

How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
?!?

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jezbot <jezbot.y48ua@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message news:<jezbot.y48ua@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au>...
> after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> goes digital. dont ya reckon?

Having more FTA channels won't give you better choice.

It's the content that needs fixing, besides Australia doesn't have the
population for another FTA commercial station.

"yipee yahoo" <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d52f86ab.0312092030.3eb558ee@posting.google.c om...
> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
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> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> half a dozen.....
>
> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> ?!?
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> jezbot <jezbot.y48ua@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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> > after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> > it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> > crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> > course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> > loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> > goes digital. dont ya reckon?

Easy. There is no market for a large amount of TV channels. Compare the
population size of New York to Sydney and you have your answer. It's not
commercially viable and would fragment the market too much.

Thanks
Miss-G-

P.S. That doesn't mean I like it.


"yipee yahoo" <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d52f86ab.0312092030.3eb558ee@posting.google.c om...
> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>
> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> half a dozen.....
>
> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> ?!?
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> jezbot <jezbot.y48ua@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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> > after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> > it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> > crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> > course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> > loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> > goes digital. dont ya reckon?

Miss-G- wrote:

> Easy. There is no market for a large amount of TV channels. Compare the
> population size of New York to Sydney and you have your answer. It's not
> commercially viable and would fragment the market too much.
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Rubbish. You cannot prove the viability or otherwise of something
unless there is a free market.

And why would it fragment the market "too much". Too much for whom?
The uncompetitive existing TV channels with their over-priced advertising
rates?

Who gives a fuck about visiting Americans?



"yipee yahoo" <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d52f86ab.0312092030.3eb558ee@posting.google.c om...
> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!

> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> ?!?
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> jezbot <jezbot.y48ua@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
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> > after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> > it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> > crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> > course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> > loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> > goes digital. dont ya reckon?

yipee yahoo wrote:

> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>
> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> half a dozen.....
>
> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> ?!?

Tell them to go outside and enjoy the sunshine and stop worrying about
rotting their brains in front of a television set. Why, do you think
they visit for HBO?

(Except a dedicated sci fi channel).

Thanks
Miss-G-

"Nathan" <abuse@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> Having more FTA channels won't give you better choice.
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> It's the content that needs fixing, besides Australia doesn't have the
> population for another FTA commercial station.
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> "yipee yahoo" <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d52f86ab.0312092030.3eb558ee@posting.google.c om...
> > Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
> >
> > There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> > Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> > half a dozen.....
> >
> > How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> > visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> > example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> > pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> > ?!?
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> > > after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> > > it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> > > crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> > > course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> > > loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> > > goes digital. dont ya reckon?
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yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com (yipee yahoo) wrote in
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> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> half a dozen.....

No there shouldn't. Three commercial channels is *more* than
enough.

I think Mr Springsteen put it best when he said "57 channels
and nothing on".

As other posters have suggested, more channels does not equal
more watchable content. I think that Sydney's "Channel 31" is
all the example we need, in that regard!

G

"Me" <r@r.com> wrote in
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> Who gives a fuck about visiting Americans?

I live right under the (departure) flight path known in
the business as the "Sydney One Departure". It's a bit of
a limited-access path, the politicians don't like anyone
using it unless they're way to heavy to maintain the 5 degree
climb ratio required for all the other Sydney departures.
Consequently, only two United Airlines flights and two Qantas
Airways flights use that route each day. (One of each to Los
Angeles, and one of each to San Francisco).

Nothing warms the heart quite like the sight of another
aeroplane-load of Americans going home, and I get to see
four of them every day! :-)

G

"Me" <r@r.com> wrote in message news:<3fd6ca9e$0$1740$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net. au>...
> Who gives a fuck about visiting Americans?
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I like your style. Full of hate, however next time u should use the
term seppos for maximum effect.

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> "yipee yahoo" <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d52f86ab.0312092030.3eb558ee@posting.google.c om...
> > Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>
> > How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> > visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> > example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> > pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> > ?!?
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> > > after a recent trip to NYC I was able to watch DirecTV and i loved it,
> > > it was amazing. The amount of choice was unimaginable compared to the
> > > crap we have to put up with on Australian pay tv, while there was of
> > > course alot of shit, isn't that all part of the experience? well I
> > > loved it. Hopefully Foxtel will be somewhat similar to DirecTV when it
> > > goes digital. dont ya reckon?

yipee yahoo wrote:
> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>
> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
> half a dozen.....

There is half a dozen FTA tv channels in Melbourne and Sydney. They're just
not all owned by private companies.

> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
> ?!?

Have you seen US TV? Yes, there are lots of channels. But most of what's on
them is either syndicated or made with very low production values. The Fox,
WB and UPN networks only exist for about 2 hours a day. The rest of the time
"Fox" etc channels show whatever cheap rubbish and repeats they can get
their hands on.

Sure there is more choice. More choice between what you probably have on
tape (or DVD) if you're interested in it. Oh, and 24 hour infomerical
channels. And lots more stuff that looks like Community TV does here, but
the channels are owned by private enterprise, so they must be better...

Nathan wrote:
> Having more FTA channels won't give you better choice.
>
> It's the content that needs fixing, besides Australia doesn't have the
> population for another FTA commercial station.

Doesn't have the population? Why? How does it cost more to set up a tower
here, buy some rights, and start broadcasting here than for a same sized
market (with similar topography) in the US?

The overall population difference is meaningless when it comes to
determining the number of national (or major city) networks. NZ has the same
as we do with a population similar to NSW.

What the population difference does affect though is the amount of
programming produced specifically for a market. If there was a dozen FTA
channels in Sydney, the only thing keeping any of them showing Aussie
content (apart from local news and soaps) would be the government quotas.
And each hour of Aussie content produced would have very little spent on it.

Tallulah Blanket wrote:
> yipee yahoo wrote:
>
>> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>>
>> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
>> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
>> half a dozen.....
>>
>> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
>> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
>> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
>> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this
>> country ?!?
>
> Tell them to go outside and enjoy the sunshine and stop worrying about
> rotting their brains in front of a television set. Why, do you think
> they visit for HBO?

If they wanted that, they could go to Indonesia...

Get a free trip from our 'excised' city. Melville Island.



"Matthew Cook" <mattax@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If they wanted that, they could go to Indonesia...
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:07:53 +1100, "Matthew Cook" <mattax@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>yipee yahoo wrote:
>> Not to mention the crap shown on free-to-air tv in Australia !!!!!
>>
>> There are only three commercial tv channel choices in Sydney,
>> Melbounre and the other capitol cities when there should be at least
>> half a dozen.....
>
>There is half a dozen FTA tv channels in Melbourne and Sydney. They're just
>not all owned by private companies.
>
>> How can we explain this embarrassing and humiliating situation to
>> visiting Americans who would expect a city the size of Sydney, for
>> example, a city with a population over 4 million, that we have such a
>> pitifully lousy abysmal pathetic choice of tv channels in this country
>> ?!?
>
>Have you seen US TV? Yes, there are lots of channels. But most of what's on
>them is either syndicated or made with very low production values. The Fox,
>WB and UPN networks only exist for about 2 hours a day. The rest of the time
>"Fox" etc channels show whatever cheap rubbish and repeats they can get
>their hands on.
>
>Sure there is more choice. More choice between what you probably have on
>tape (or DVD) if you're interested in it. Oh, and 24 hour infomerical
>channels. And lots more stuff that looks like Community TV does here, but
>the channels are owned by private enterprise, so they must be better...
>

And why should we give a toss about what Americans think of us
anyway??