TRIO DX-628 Vs XMS-888

[black6]

while checking out the XMS-888 today...also saw the TRIO DX-628 in store for $248, much better quality & finish than XMS-888, what are the differences between these two? what are the chip set in both players? which one is better??

Thanks guys!!

[andw]

The Trio DX-628 has a MTK1389 processor,
The XMS-888 has an ESS ES6688FAD processor.
The MTK1389 is a newer chip than the ESS, or the Sigma EM8500, but they are all made by different manufacturers.
jok11n has posted a link to the DX-628 somewhere previous, it is http://www.triocorp.com.au/DX-628.aspx
To view info on the XMS-888 go to www.xms888.tk
As far as which one is better, that is subjective, certainly the specs on the DX-628 look like it can do a lot more 'stuff', and it's at least a couple of months 'newer', and a couple of months can mean a lot in this industry on new stuff.

[black6]

Thanks Andw For Your Reply! Just Wondering If You Know Those Branded One Like You Posted Before...philips, Kiss, Lite-on $ Etc, When Will They Be Heading To Aussie Market?? And If You Also Know Is Trio A Aussie Or Oversea Brand?

Thanks!

[andw]

Originally Posted by black6

Thanks Andw For Your Reply! Just Wondering If You Know Those Branded One Like You Posted Before...philips, Kiss, Lite-on $ Etc, When Will They Be Heading To Aussie Market?? And If You Also Know Is Trio A Aussie Or Oversea Brand?
Thanks!

Have no idea when they would be heading to Australia, sorry.
I don't think that there would be any DVD or DivX type players made in Australia.
I think that China / Taiwan / Japan would make most of the players that are made in the world, and come into Australia, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[MnM]

Yeah I am investigating how I can bring some MKT1389 into AUstralia.
The problem now is that I need to bring quiet a few in at this point in time (this might change). So unless they drop the huge required qty or I get lots and lots of interested ppl who are willing to pay up front I dont really see me bringing them in. Having said that I still have to look at some shops to see the level of interest ... who knows

[jokiin]

Originally Posted by MnM

Yeah I am investigating how I can bring some MKT1389 into AUstralia.
The problem now is that I need to bring quiet a few in at this point in time (this might change). So unless they drop the huge required qty or I get lots and lots of interested ppl who are willing to pay up front I dont really see me bringing them in. Having said that I still have to look at some shops to see the level of interest ... who knows

Minimum quantity is generally 1800 pieces (20 ft container) so it can be a bit cost prohibitive to be competitive.

[jokiin]

Originally Posted by black6

Thanks Andw For Your Reply! Just Wondering If You Know Those Branded One Like You Posted Before...philips, Kiss, Lite-on $ Etc, When Will They Be Heading To Aussie Market?? And If You Also Know Is Trio A Aussie Or Oversea Brand?

Thanks!

Kiss is a possibility for the Australian market, bit early to know for sure but it has been talked about already.

[skaman]

If anyone is interested in disassembling the Mediatek MT13x9 firmwares, there is some limited information on them in the MT13x9 Yahoo Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9

Late!

[Jack Tan]

Originally Posted by black6

Thanks Andw For Your Reply! Just Wondering If You Know Those Branded One Like You Posted Before...philips, Kiss, Lite-on $ Etc, When Will They Be Heading To Aussie Market?? And If You Also Know Is Trio A Aussie Or Oversea Brand?

Thanks!

Mate, in regards to your queries, I dont think that KiSS or Philips will be entering the Aussie market anytime soon. It doesnt make economic sense for them I reckon as the Aussie market isnt showing a great demand for such devices. As for the Lite-On, if Im not mistaken, it is no longer in production. THe Philips player has only flooded the European markets, making it expensive for us cos of the Euro and the KiSS player has only reached Japan, the closest so far to Australia.

I think all of the DivX players in Australia apart from Neuston products (Singapore made)are all made in China at the moment, either using the MTK chipset or the ESS chipset. The SIGMA chipset that Ive read in the forums is way past the EM8500. The neuston DVX-1201 is using the EM8550 and the SIGMA EM 8620 is well on its way. KiSS is manufactured in Europe, driving up the price quite substantially and dont know much about Philips.

For myself, I have found that there are several companies releasing their Media Centres, most noticably Pinnacle and Neuston. Seems like a much easier way to view your MPEG-4 files, rather than a MPEG-4 player. Provides a lot more versatility. Basically a MPEG-4 player, but cuts out burning of a CD-r, directly transmitting encoded data from your hard drive and decoding for your television. Quick and easy.

[orlichf]

Hi,
just went to Strathfield here in Melbourne who are selling the Trio for $249 and the XMS for $179. Asked what the difference was and he said that the Trio is newer and has the latest firmware. He also said that the XMS-888 cannot be updated. I guess he did not see this link posted earlier ( http://www.xms888.tk/ )
Has anyone tried to update the XMS-888?

Cheers

[andw]

There is no problem updating the firmware to 1.1, or 1.2 on the XMS-888. (as long as you follow the instructions properly).
So far, the Trio does not have any updated firmware (although it is newer).
Most people here would have at least Firmware 1.1, or 1.2 on their XMS-888.
Unfortunately it would appear that a lot of 'salespeople' employed by companies selling hi-fi / home entertainment goods don't spend a lot of time finding out about the products they sell. (If they did, they would probably sell more)

[triocorp]

Originally Posted by andw

The Trio DX-628 has a MTK1389 processor,
The XMS-888 has an ESS ES6688FAD processor.
The MTK1389 is a newer chip than the ESS, or the Sigma EM8500, but they are all made by different manufacturers.
jok11n has posted a link to the DX-628 somewhere previous, it is http://www.triocorp.com.au/DX-628.aspx
To view info on the XMS-888 go to www.xms888.tk
As far as which one is better, that is subjective, certainly the specs on the DX-628 look like it can do a lot more 'stuff', and it's at least a couple of months 'newer', and a couple of months can mean a lot in this industry on new stuff.

We have been monitoring the newsgroup for a while and it never ceases to amaze me the information people find out about products.

As a background, we started using MTK on the DVD-845 back in early March last year. MTK was not well known back then but the quality of the DVD-845 is absolutely outstanding! We have had a defect rate of below 0.1%. That is less than 1 unit per 1000, and we have over 50,000 units out there. We were suprised that its performance and quality exceeded ESS considering it was a cheaper solution.

Having said that, the MTK solution for DiVX players is actually more expensive than the ESS. So far, we have had very little returns, and for a very new product, this also indicates a very high level of quality from MTK.

We have been approached by KISS and various other manufacturers to bring the product into Australia. KISS is definitely a very expensive machine and we do not see any possibility it will be competitive whatsoever. There are various Chinese manufacturers that are promoting DiVX players but because of the volumes required, not many importers are willing to take the risk of buying dvd players that are double the price of normal players.

So there are quite a few manufacturers out there so expect the players to arrive when demand hits mainstream.

[slider17]

hi there triocorp

good to see that there are reps associated with the products we users buy, viewing these forums.

i have a question to ask: When will there be a new firmware update for the dx628? I have spotted some problems with the machine, such as:

Rewind speed too fast (2x)
Timecode always displaying when watching divx avi files.
Support for external subtitile files.

i would really appreciate a response.

thank you
slider17

[andw]

Hi triocorp, I agree with slider17, it is good to see a supplier taking the time to read the opinions of users of the products they distribute.
I've seen you post before, on aus.tv.digital usenet, and have found that you are helpful.
Users of the DX-628 should feel pleased that you are in here looking at these threads as well.
welcome.

[triocorp]

Originally Posted by slider17

hi there triocorp

good to see that there are reps associated with the products we users buy, viewing these forums.

i have a question to ask: When will there be a new firmware update for the dx628? I have spotted some problems with the machine, such as:

Rewind speed too fast (2x)
Timecode always displaying when watching divx avi files.
Support for external subtitile files.

i would really appreciate a response.

thank you
slider17

Hi there Slider,

With regards to firmware, some problems can be resolved on the application layer while others are on a lower level. Problems on the application layer is easier to get updates because we have influence on our DVD manufacturer, however, problems/updates based on the lower level has more to do with the chipset manufacturer themselves.

Using your problems as examples, the fast rewind and time code displaying for AVI files can be resolved relatively quickly. With regards to external support for subtitles and support for other file formats, that will depend on MTK. Some features may be deemed "too good" for an existing chipset, so they may opt to add that into the next chipset. In so saying that, as this is their latest chipset, I believe that any extra features will occur for this chipset for at least the next 3 months.

I also believe someone earlier posted a solution for the default time code display so I shall defer to the previous poster

So to answer your question directly, we will wait until there are enough minor bugs to warrant pushing for an upgrade. It is better business practice if we do not lean on the manufacturer too often, and better still if we present a list of problems in one go instead of listing small problems on many occasions.

So please, we encourage all users of our products to email us at support@triocorp.com.au and list any bugs or even suggestions to improve our product. We do really compile all information we receive and use it in our internal discussions.

[jokiin]

I think the firmware support on the DX-628 is fairly close as it is and most stuff should be reasonably easy to get resolved, the only thing that does concern me though is that I have found the player to be a bit fussy about what discs it will or won't read, which would seem to be more of a hardware issue as I haven't seen other MTK based players having the same issues with media. I would be interested to know if this will also be looked at.

[andw]

Originally Posted by jok11n

I think the firmware support on the DX-628 is fairly close as it is and most stuff should be reasonably easy to get resolved, the only thing that does concern me though is that I have found the player to be a bit fussy about what discs it will or won't read, which would seem to be more of a firmware issue as I haven't seen other MTK based players having the same issues with media. I would be interested to know if this will also be looked at.

jok11n, you don't think this could be a problem with the disc loader, as opposed to the firmware?

[jokiin]

Originally Posted by andw

jok11n, you don't think this could be a problem with the disc loader, as opposed to the firmware?

You are correct, I did mean hardware. I have edited my original post so that it makes sense now (ok, I admit it, I'm tired) thanks for pointing that out

[V205]

Originally Posted by triocorp

Hi there Slider,

I also believe someone earlier posted a solution for the default time code display so I shall defer to the previous poster

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There's a solution to have the OSD Timer off by default when playing Mpeg4 files?? Or do you mean just press the OSD button 2 times to turn it off everytime a new mpeg4 is played?