China road toll

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China's road toll soars

More than 600 people are killed and more than 45,000 injured on China's
roads every day, according to estimates from the World Health Organisation.
With the car market in China booming and so many new and inexperienced
drivers taking to the roads, traffic fatalities there are forecast to
increase to almost 500,000 deaths each year by 2020 unless urgent action is
taken. Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
people aged 15-45 in China.

600 PER DAY ! Back to bikes for you guys.....

CDIHL

OMERTA wrote:

>
>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>people aged 15-45 in China.

Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
much lower suicide rate!

>
>600 PER DAY !

Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.

--
John H

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OMERTA wrote:
>
>>
>>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>>people aged 15-45 in China.
>
> Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
> much lower suicide rate!
>
>>
>>600 PER DAY !
>
> Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.
China has a population of approx 1.3 billion. 600 /day = 219,000 per annum
or 1 death per 5,900 of population.
Australia has a population of approx 20 million. 2003 had 1634 fatalities or
1 death per 12,200 of population.
So china is about twice as bad as australia. HOWEVER - I suspect that China
has far fewer vehicles per head of population on the road, so when the
fatalities are spread amongst road users China is even worse.
In 1989 however australia's population was approx 17 million and had 2801
fatalities, or 1 fatality per 6000 of population, which means in 1989 we
were pretty close to where china is now.


>
> --
> John H

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cb9sn0pdf9iveu1q0r2qel60rh24s0rjs0@4ax.com...
> OMERTA wrote:
>
>>
>>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>>people aged 15-45 in China.
>
> Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
> much lower suicide rate!
>
>>
>>600 PER DAY !
>
> Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.

Let's see, 600 x 365 / 1.2G compared with 1700 / 19M. Roughly twice
Australia's toll.

John_H wrote:

> OMERTA wrote:
>
>
>>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>>people aged 15-45 in China.
>
>
> Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
> much lower suicide rate!
>
>
>>600 PER DAY !
>
>
> Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.

Just what I was thinking.

China has a population of roughly 1.2 billion, so thats 600/1.2B per day
or 365 x 600 / 1200 = 182 deaths per million people per year.

Victoria has a road toll of roughly 400 per year for roughly 5 million
people? Thats about 80 deaths per million people per year.

China: 182
Victoria: 80


YIKES!
And most of them are still on bicycles and buses!

Justin Thyme wrote:

>
> "John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cb9sn0pdf9iveu1q0r2qel60rh24s0rjs0@4ax.com...
>> OMERTA wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>>>people aged 15-45 in China.
>>
>> Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
>> much lower suicide rate!
>>
>>>
>>>600 PER DAY !
>>
>> Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.
> China has a population of approx 1.3 billion. 600 /day = 219,000 per annum
> or 1 death per 5,900 of population.
> Australia has a population of approx 20 million. 2003 had 1634 fatalities
> or 1 death per 12,200 of population.
> So china is about twice as bad as australia. HOWEVER - I suspect that
> China has far fewer vehicles per head of population on the road, so when
> the fatalities are spread amongst road users China is even worse.
> In 1989 however australia's population was approx 17 million and had 2801
> fatalities, or 1 fatality per 6000 of population, which means in 1989 we
> were pretty close to where china is now.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> John H


How many drivers do you think there are in China ?

I"d say 100 million would be optimistic.

So multiply your figures by at least 10, maybe 13.

That's a lot of dead people/capita

Graham W wrote:
<snip>
> China has a population of roughly 1.2 billion, so thats 600/1.2B per day
> or 365 x 600 / 1200 = 182 deaths per million people per year.
>
> Victoria has a road toll of roughly 400 per year for roughly 5 million
> people? Thats about 80 deaths per million people per year.
>
> China: 182
> Victoria: 80
>
>
> YIKES!
> And most of them are still on bicycles and buses!

Actually, overall Australia has a worse driving record than China
according to the TAC
http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/cont...null&pageID=83
or
http://tinyurl.com/4syw9

Australia 8 deaths per 100000 population
China 5 deaths per 100000 population

We probably have a much higher ratio of cars to people though so thats
not quite accurate either.
Come on, someone whos bored somewhere can tally the figures for the
major centres around the world and post them. :)

JB

bling wrote:

> Justin Thyme wrote:
>
>
>>"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:cb9sn0pdf9iveu1q0r2qel60rh24s0rjs0@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>OMERTA wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Injuries from road traffic crashes are the leading cause of death for
>>>>people aged 15-45 in China.
>>>
>>>Not far from the top here either -- and the Chinese probably have a
>>>much lower suicide rate!
>>>
>>>
>>>>600 PER DAY !
>>>
>>>Could we have that as pro rata please?... Means SFA otherwise.
>>
>>China has a population of approx 1.3 billion. 600 /day = 219,000 per annum
>>or 1 death per 5,900 of population.
>>Australia has a population of approx 20 million. 2003 had 1634 fatalities
>>or 1 death per 12,200 of population.
>>So china is about twice as bad as australia. HOWEVER - I suspect that
>>China has far fewer vehicles per head of population on the road, so when
>>the fatalities are spread amongst road users China is even worse.
>>In 1989 however australia's population was approx 17 million and had 2801
>>fatalities, or 1 fatality per 6000 of population, which means in 1989 we
>>were pretty close to where china is now.
>>
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>John H
>
>
>
> How many drivers do you think there are in China ?
>
> I"d say 100 million would be optimistic.
>

800,000 taxis in Shanghai apparently.

--
Ben Thomas
Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither
given nor endorsed by it.

The Last Gunslinger wrote:
> Graham W wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> China has a population of roughly 1.2 billion, so thats 600/1.2B per
>> day or 365 x 600 / 1200 = 182 deaths per million people per year.
>>
>> Victoria has a road toll of roughly 400 per year for roughly 5 million
>> people? Thats about 80 deaths per million people per year.
>>
>> China: 182
>> Victoria: 80
>>
>>
>> YIKES!
>> And most of them are still on bicycles and buses!
>
>
> Actually, overall Australia has a worse driving record than China
> according to the TAC
> http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/cont...null&pageID=83
>
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/4syw9
>
> Australia 8 deaths per 100000 population
> China 5 deaths per 100000 population
>
> We probably have a much higher ratio of cars to people though so thats
> not quite accurate either.
> Come on, someone whos bored somewhere can tally the figures for the
> major centres around the world and post them. :)
>
> JB
Err, Ignore that.
Damn I suck at this maths game at times :)

JB

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:12:26 +1000, The Last Gunslinger <jbngspam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The Last Gunslinger wrote:
>> Graham W wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> China has a population of roughly 1.2 billion, so thats 600/1.2B per
>>> day or 365 x 600 / 1200 = 182 deaths per million people per year.
>>>
>>> Victoria has a road toll of roughly 400 per year for roughly 5 million
>>> people? Thats about 80 deaths per million people per year.
>>>
>>> China: 182
>>> Victoria: 80
>>>
>>>
>>> YIKES!
>>> And most of them are still on bicycles and buses!
>>
>>
>> Actually, overall Australia has a worse driving record than China
>> according to the TAC
>> http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/cont...null&pageID=83
>>
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/4syw9
>>
>> Australia 8 deaths per 100000 population
>> China 5 deaths per 100000 population
>>
>> We probably have a much higher ratio of cars to people though so thats
>> not quite accurate either.
>> Come on, someone whos bored somewhere can tally the figures for the
>> major centres around the world and post them. :)
>>
>> JB
>Err, Ignore that.
>Damn I suck at this maths game at times :)

Goddammit man, I sure hope you're not JB the RPT jock or I've just found ANOTHER
reason not to fly QF ;-)